New date for King of Street - Oct 17

**AdamantiumSilvr** · 10-25-2010, 01:02 PM

...just doesn't do it for me anymore, they're kinda boring. Maybe havin a beginner brackets at'em would help get more racers at bracket events. But honestly it really don't make sense to beat up your car to just chase that best time over and over n over again. I understand stand if u never ran before and wanted see what your car did maybe after some mods, or u got a new combo with tons of horsepower and your tryin to get it runnin right. But as of lately I like to see reeeal competitive racing happening!
Between me n my bro playin Ice Hockey and my Dad playin Baseball for years we got dozons upon dozons of trophy's rottin in storage. They are pretty much worthless. Um lookin to get some

muuulaa!!!

**PaceFever79** · 10-25-2010, 01:09 PM

PRP is a loser because they have a poor team. It's really that simple. I worked on the
staff for many driving school / track events so I know a little about how to design and
promote a successful event. Drag racing is really no different.

**SAC81** · 10-25-2010, 01:13 PM

I've been pretty happy with PRP this year. I had lots of complaints last year, but the few times I made it out to the track this year I was pretty happy.

**PaceFever79** · 10-25-2010, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by SAC81

I've been pretty happy with PRP this year. I had lots of complaints last year, but the few times I made it out to the track this year I was pretty happy.

Just to be clear, I'm not knocking how they run their events.

My comment was about how they design and promote them.

**biminiLX** · 10-25-2010, 02:33 PM

Yeah I'm done with this thread, no more posts from me on this topic, I think its clear to see Balaska's opinion/agenda.

Originally Posted by PaceFever79

Just to be clear, I'm not knocking how they run their events.

My comment was about how they design and promote them.

I am serious about helping set-up one next year, hopefully you could help, I'll contact you later.
TS event w/ cruise and payouts just like NMRA/NMCA, car show, burnout contest, grudge race etc. should not be hard to promote and make money on.
-J

**Balaska347** · 10-25-2010, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by PaceFever79

PRP is a loser because they have a poor team. It's really that simple. I worked on the
staff for many driving school / track events so I know a little about how to design and
promote a successful event. Drag racing is really no different.

I agree to an extent with this comment. One problem is there really is no team. Greg Miller was given the track manager position for this past year and that pretty much is the team. Other employees consists of some old racers and Wyotech kids that get minimum wage and only a few have ever been around a drag strip in their life. Greg can't be manager, PR, HR, promoter and operator and do the best to his ability. I watched this guy work his butt off all year and struggle and kill himself and begged for more help because he knows he needs it but not get it. So the problem really is PRP doesn't want to pay the money for a winning team. Sort of like the pirates. Why spend more money when they are making enough. Do I agree with PRP? NO! I was serious when I said to apply for a position at PRP. I would like to see Greg get some help with the business end. That is if he doesn't throw in the towel because he can't take much more. This is why I get so touchy when people make ridiculous comments.

**Balaska347** · 10-25-2010, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by AdamantiumSilvr

...just doesn't do it for me anymore, they're kinda boring. Maybe havin a beginner brackets at'em would help get more racers at bracket events. But honestly it really don't make sense to beat up your car to just chase that best time over and over n over again. I understand stand if u never ran before and wanted see what your car did maybe after some mods, or u got a new combo with tons of horsepower and your tryin to get it runnin right. But as of lately I like to see reeeal competitive racing happening!
Between me n my bro playin Ice Hockey and my Dad playin Baseball for years we got dozons upon dozons of trophy's rottin in storage. They are pretty much worthless. Um lookin to get some

muuulaa!!!

...I really think you will become hooked with bracket racing when you get the hang of it. It has to be one of the most competitive motorsports out there that you dont need to be rich to compete in. Plus like you said, when you start winning cash it makes it that much better because you can put it back into the car. You are already more advanced then I was when I started.

**PaceFever79** · 10-25-2010, 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by Balaska347

I agree to an extent with this comment. One problem is there really is no team. Greg Miller was given the track manager position for this past year and that pretty much is the team. Other employees consists of some old racers and Wyotech kids that get minimum wage and only a few have ever been around a drag strip in their life. Greg can't be manager, PR, HR, promoter and operator and do the best to his ability. I watched this guy work his butt off all year and struggle and kill himself and begged for more help because he knows he needs it but not get it. So the problem really is PRP doesn't want to pay the money for a winning team. Sort of like the pirates. Why spend more money when they are making enough. Do I agree with PRP? NO! I was serious when I said to apply for a position at PRP. I would like to see Greg get some help with the business end. That is if he doesn't throw in the towel because he can't take much more. This is why I get so touchy when people make ridiculous comments.

Just a quick reply.... (I'm at work)

The way you build a team is by recruiting enthusiast / volunteers.

They attend all the planning meetings, contribute ideas, and the manager
delegates various tasks to each of them. They then go out to all the clubs
and message forums and do grass roots promoting of the event. In return
they get free entry to the event and the pride that comes with being part
of a team and producing a fun/successful event.

Obviously there is burnout, but once you get it rolling, you'd be surprised
how many new and returning volunteers you get.

**AdamantiumSilvr** · 10-25-2010, 07:23 PM

...been hooked!

I was totally hooked when I was like 5 goin twice a year to NHRA events, and goin to see my dad's buddy Mark Claypool and his crew bracket race their Plymouth Arrow and Dodge Dart haha! Watchin as a kid and then learning to do it, an actually race as an adult are two differents deals, lol!
Gregs a great guy thou! I'm pretty sure its pretty tuff tryin ta manage a drag strip. I give him alot of credit and have seen tons of major overall improvment on the track in the past decade!

Originally Posted by Balaska347

...I really think you will become hooked with bracket racing when you get the hang of it. It has to be one of the most competitive motorsports out there that you dont need to be rich to compete in. Plus like you said, when you start winning cash it makes it that much better because you can put it back into the car. You are already more advanced then I was when I started.

**Balaska347** · 10-25-2010, 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by PaceFever79

Just a quick reply.... (I'm at work)

The way you build a team is by recruiting enthusiast / volunteers.

They attend all the planning meetings, contribute ideas, and the manager
delegates various tasks to each of them. They then go out to all the clubs
and message forums and do grass roots promoting of the event. In return
they get free entry to the event and the pride that comes with being part
of a team and producing a fun/successful event.

Obviously there is burnout, but once you get it rolling, you'd be surprised
how many new and returning volunteers you get.

That is a good idea and they all ready do have a few volunteers that do something like that. That would and does help with promoting certain event but they still need to hire and pay professionals for the business end. There is a lot of work on that end and one man just can't do it himself.

**PaceFever79** · 10-26-2010, 12:32 AM

Originally Posted by Balaska347

That is a good idea and they all ready do have a few volunteers that do something like that. That would and does help with promoting certain event but they still need to hire and pay professionals for the business end. There is a lot of work on that end and one man just can't do it himself.

Right. I wasn't addressing the business of operating a race track.

The team would be just for organizing special events.

The team could help organize, promote and run 4 special events per year.
(Spring, early summer, late summer, and a fall event). They help with the
event planning, promoting, and help organize things like swap meets, car
shows, and cruise portions of this street car event. You could even take it
a step further with an after race awards / BBQ.

In return they get free track time.

**CobraII** · 10-26-2010, 10:56 AM

My suggestion to you would be to gather your proposal, in writing, and submit it to track owner Michael Tedesco's attention, either in person these last few events, or by mail:

Pittsburgh Raceway Park
Attn: Michael Tedesco
538 Stone Jug Road
New Alexandria PA 15670

Michael most likely will be at the track these last few test and tunes, as his daughter Mia gets more seat time in her dragster. They pit on the right lane side down past the tower, shortly before the playground.