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    Crazy Bosnian Slow5.0's Avatar
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    Need advice for good rotating assembly (piston,rod,crank)............

    Well i decide to go with Dart Sportsman 302 block
    Now i have to figure out what internals i gonna use
    Its gonna be bosted motor so everything have to be very good stuff forged

    For HP # ,i don't know how high i wanna go but i wanna have space for more so i don't care if is over kill ,because this motor have to produce some crazy power
    Heads i gonna use most likely gonna be TFS TW R
    BTW its not race motor since its gonna be in street Stang that will see track once or twice a month

    Anyway HP #s i looking for are 650+ and money its not problem

    So who makes good internals and what are good combos

    Thank you

    BTW should i go with internaly ballanced or not
    Ernan aka Ernie

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    I went with a Eagle Forged Crank, Eagle H-Beam Rods and Custom Forged JE Pistons for my 331. It is internally balanced, which I would recomend for your application as well.

    I would suggest contacting Ron @ Fox Lake if you plan on running the TW Heads. He's the guru on them!

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    I like the eagle products (I have there 408 forged stroker kit in my 88), but with your goal of 650+ hp I wouldn't go with eagle H beam rods. I'd go with a good billet rod like manley pro I beam rod. I had eagle rods for my 00GT, but sold them and bought some pro I beams with pistons after a customer folded a eagle H beam rod and wiped his block out in his high powered turbo car. They are rock solid rods and will take abuse, but they are about twice as much(about $1200 just for the rods). For pistons I'd go with the JE or CP pistons.
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    I have very similar goals to you Ernan and I went with 4340 forged scat crank and H beam rods with ARP 2000 rod bolts and JE SRP pistons. If I could have changed anything it may have been the pistons but these will still due for what my goals are. My rotating assembly is internally balanced, I felt this was best even though I don't plan to rev it very high. Like Ed I recommend you do this as well. I got my stuff from Kevin at http://www.kskustoms.com and I had it assembled by Rick at RNH performance.
    -Paul

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    Thank you guys ,thank you Paul
    But one thing , isn't H beam rod stronger than I beam
    And Chris00GT whats reason i should go with I beam rod
    Ernan aka Ernie

    '94 GT Vert

    12.76 @ 105 w/ bad clutch 4050lbs 1.8 60FT

    TW heads,B-31 AFM cam..... MORE

    312HP / 340TQ with safe tune

    "A few" pics of my car

    My "Slow5.0 Compilation" video from the begining

    My "Slow5.0 Dyno Compilation" video


    04 Lincoln Navi


    WTB 94-95 5.0 smog pump

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    The eagle H beam rod is rated to around 700hp and is what we used with great results on most engine rebuilds. Some I beams are what we would use on motors who have a higher hp goal or want the stronger rod. The Manley Pro I beam is rated to 1200hp. The manley rods were alot beefer and weighed more than my H beam eagle rods. Places like Bennett Racing go from H beams on their normal engines to Oliver billet I beam rods on their higher power street engines.
    Last edited by Chris00GT; 03-13-2007 at 01:17 PM.
    Chris Kauffman
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    1991 302 LX notch Saleen replica
    1988 408LX drag car
    1988 460LX drag car (new project)

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