My Teksid Project - Orange Nightmare

[wick]

Hope you dont have to change balance...mallory will cost more than you paid for the crank.

[Ares]

Hope you dont have to change balance...mallory will cost more than you paid for the crank.

I shouldn't need it. Guy used Eagle rods which are same weight as what I have +/-1g. He did have a block bored .030 over using CP 18cc pistons which are about 30g heavier than what mine are. CP's should be 366g and my DSS weigh 336.1g. I do have two sets of wrist pins with one set being thick walled and 7.8g heavier other set thin walled.

[biminiLX]

Yeah if your pistons are lighter you should be fine, if I understand it correctly, the heavier rods/pistons will need crank weight added and lighter will need crank material removed for balancing generally.
-J

[Ares]

More goodies on the way. Bi-metal rod and main bearings(3/4 grooved), Total Seal CS AP ring set(coated stainless top, cast iron tapered 2nd, std tension oil) and oil drainback kit for block.

[CobraII]

No changes in a month??? Whatsupwityou???

[Ares]

No changes in a month??? Whatsupwityou???

Rotating assembly is at shop getting done and crank being turned into swiss cheese :D I got the block cleaned up and painted titanium silver/blue. Mostly deburred on inside with a few spots left to get. Still need to tap oil return holes for fittings and knock out heater tube connection on back side of water pump area. Tap that and plug it.

Lots and lots to do and buy yet. Have fuel system to redo, chassis work, and figure out transmission. Doubt my stock 3650 will survive very long(willing to test that :D ) and case would need machined to put a steel bell on it along with many upgrades needed internally for it also. So need to look into a reworked Tremec 600 or something else

[yeahloh95]

g=force just brought out gears for the 3650

[Ares]

g=force just brought out gears for the 3650

That will be real nice. Pro Motion builds 3650 good for 750hp and Quick Time makes a steel bell setup for it as well. Which would make pulling a 3650 much easier. I have an extra 3650 I'd like to redo myself if possible.

[Martin0660]

(willing to test that :D )

Durability testing FTW!!!

[Ares]

Had a call from shop yesterday but wasn't unable to get back in time. So today I stopped in since I was in area and found that the crank needed 2oz on both ends. Not sure wtf the previous guy had done to this thing but machinist felt it was balanced externally. Ended up he was able to weld up the prior balance holes to fill them 3/4 way on deepest ones. Saved from having to add mallory. I told them which ever way they wanted to do it didn't matter. Was told $40 per slug plus $50 to install each. Which I don't think is bad. Still would have been cheaper than new crank.

Guess some people get pissy when a crank has welding done on it. They like it to look pretty. I said I could care less what it looks like so long as it is balanced.

Crank journals in perfect shape and smack in the middle of clearance range. So now all done and pick that up tommorrow morning. Just need main studs and file setup to do rings and can put it together

[Ares]

Some minor cleanup and deburring to do. Pistons weight matched to .3g from lightest to heaviest. Only 3 of them didn't get touched.

Pic of lightest(bottom right) heaviest (bottom left) and few other that feel in middle


Heaviest Piston


Front counter weight that had prior balance holes welded up to add weight.




Rear counter weight that had same thing done.


Few things away from putting together. $54 in brass fittings and tubing for oil drainback. Got them long enough to then trim to fit whichever oil pan I end up using. Rods didn't need much to weight match. One had nothing touched on it, 2 had only big end only and others slightly on both ends.

[Ares]

And block is ready. Got drain holes tapped and tubing cut to length to lil over 1" below pan rail of block. Should end up being 3/4" once tightened down with red loctite. Which I'll do once rotating assembly is in place. Thinking I may swap out the brass for some thinner wall aluminum tubing. Not sure if it will really matter.

[CobraII]

Looks good, Ed! Let me know if you want to borrow the ring filer. I can bring it to work with me and you can swing through town to pick it up.

Or, if you're bored tonight, I could use a tow. :D

[Balaska347]

I can't wait till this thing is finished.

Ring Filer? I thought we lost it. I had to file mine by rubbing them back and forth on the concrete floor.

[somethingclever]

6" metabo and cutoff wheel works too. :)

[Ares]

Well I got something accomplished today. Got the crank in and just have to go over the jack screws and side bolts. Not sure how much time I wasted looking for a deepwell 12pt 12mm socket to fit the ARP nuts on inside main studs. Just for that one stupid one for pickup tube mount

[Ares]

Mental note when filing steel ring and iron rings. Iron rings take less effort to reach desired gap. Plus I noticed they don't need much deburring compared to the steel ones. I did get half the pistons in at 30-40 min per cylinder. I really could use a 1 piece ring compressor as my adjustable one does not like the small 3.552 pistons and wasting more time.

Also with mains all nice and tight. Don't mix up the torque value for jack screws and side bolts. Over doing jack screws even slightly was enough to make turning crank by hand tough. Like butter when done right...who knew :loco:

[biminiLX]

Haha, learning the insides of a 4.6 sounds fun.
Glad to hear its moving along.
-J

[Ares]

Kinda questioning myself on the ring gaps. I have the steel top at .020" and iron 2nd at .015"(set a little more than what I figured of .012-.013") Based off guide lines that came with rings. Top being bore x .0055" and 2nd being bore x .0035"

[Martin0660]

Looking good Ed ... I guess I have missed it, but is the car still together and going to race as is to start, or are you not coming out until this new combo is together? LOL, I need someone to be later than me this year ;)