Bone stock...

**WSFrazier** · 06-14-2011, 09:26 AM

Good numbers, you put down more than 2 modified and tuned 5.0's did on Mike's dyno.

**wicked400ex** · 06-14-2011, 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by WSFrazier

Good numbers, you put down more than 2 modified and tuned 5.0's did on Mike's dyno.

Mine were done in 5th gear which is the 1:1 gear on these cars unlike the older 6 speeds that 1:1 was 4th gear. Mike mentioned about contacting the 2 previous customers that were done in 4th about re-testing in the correct 5th gear.

**SonofaBish** · 06-14-2011, 09:59 AM

wow, great numbers! love the wheels btw! :D I've never been much for any wheel choice other than chrome on a black car, but i've been considering a gunmetal more and more for my next set...

**Wolfpack Speed** · 06-14-2011, 10:55 PM

Originally Posted by wicked400ex

No, that requires drilling/welding a bung before the cats. After it has an O/R H pipe, CAI, axlebacks and a tune I will.

You don't need an auxiliary bung and sensor to sample a/f on an 11+ Mustang, you can data log it. When sampling via an auxiliary bung/sensor, pre cat is most definitely preferred but it's not the end of the world if you sample from the cat or after. Whats most important is that you check your a/f sensor before every use and say no to tail pipe sniffers!

**Wolfpack Speed** · 06-14-2011, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by wicked400ex

Mine were done in 5th gear which is the 1:1 gear on these cars unlike the older 6 speeds that 1:1 was 4th gear. Mike mentioned about contacting the 2 previous customers that were done in 4th about re-testing in the correct 5th gear.

The difference between the two is minimal but try telling that to a dyno queen! I'm guessing the previous manual 5.0's were done in 4th but I cant remember and need to look at all 5.0 run files to figure out. We dyno a lot of cars and have had to dyno several in 5th gear, I tend to look up anything that isn't a mustang but was not aware that the new 6-speeds were 1:1 5th, good to know!

**Seer** · 06-14-2011, 11:14 PM

Originally Posted by Wolfpack Speed

The difference between the two is minimal but try telling that to a dyno queen! I'm guessing the previous manual 5.0's were done in 4th but I cant remember and need to look at all 5.0 run files to figure out. We dyno a lot of cars and have had to dyno several in 5th gear, I tend to look up anything that isn't a mustang but was not aware that the new 6-speeds were 1:1 5th, good to know!

I'd love to strap my car on your dyno, see how it does. Although, if you figured out who I am (not difficult) you'd prob dyno me in second gear for shits and giggles lol.

**Wolfpack Speed** · 06-14-2011, 11:19 PM

Originally Posted by Blue

I'd love to strap my car on your dyno, see how it does. Although, if you figured out who I am (not difficult) you'd prob dyno me in second gear for shits and giggles lol.

I will dyno it in 5th but I'm not going to strap the car down

**Seer** · 06-14-2011, 11:23 PM

Originally Posted by Wolfpack Speed

I will dyno it in 5th but I'm not going to strap the car down

hmm... but aren't you the one who runs all of the cars on the dyno? I wouldn't want to see you hurt yourself Mike. :D

If that stock 6spd manual 2012 is making 386 on your dyno, then wow, if I don't have a lemon, I should be well over 400 then, car has trapped high 116's.

**Wolfpack Speed** · 06-14-2011, 11:28 PM

Originally Posted by Blue

hmm... but aren't you the one who runs all of the cars on the dyno? I wouldn't want to see you hurt yourself Mike. :D

If that stock 6spd manual 2012 is making 386 on your dyno, then wow, if I don't have a lemon, I should be well over 400 then, car has trapped high 116's.

No, but air bags and a seat belt is all I need!

**Seer** · 06-14-2011, 11:42 PM

Note to self. Hide from wolfpacks dyno

**wicked400ex** · 06-15-2011, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by Wolfpack Speed

You don't need an auxiliary bung and sensor to sample a/f on an 11+ Mustang, you can data log it. When sampling via an auxiliary bung/sensor, pre cat is most definitely preferred but it's not the end of the world if you sample from the cat or after. Whats most important is that you check your a/f sensor before every use and say no to tail pipe sniffers!

Cool! lil different from my '08, I remember you welded a bung in that one when you did the 4.10's. Don't know why I wanted it cause it got replaced by an offroad H pipe shortly after! lol

**jaa55** · 06-15-2011, 11:07 AM

This is a stupid question maybe but what do you do with an automatic car if youre aiming for 1:1 through the tranny?

These are awesome numbers I'm going to make a solid commitment to get my car on a dyno. Jon Lund has done some great numbers from what I've seen and I would like to be one of those cars.

**Seer** · 06-15-2011, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by jaa55

This is a stupid question maybe but what do you do with an automatic car if youre aiming for 1:1 through the tranny?

These are awesome numbers I'm going to make a solid commitment to get my car on a dyno. Jon Lund has done some great numbers from what I've seen and I would like to be one of those cars.

Lund tuned my car, love it so far. Just need a small adjustment, but other than that its been great.

**jaa55** · 06-15-2011, 11:25 AM

cammed tune would be great also

**Seer** · 06-15-2011, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by jaa55

cammed tune would be great also

Thats what mine is :D

**yeahloh95** · 06-15-2011, 12:28 PM

he is not doing the cammed tunes anymore

**Seer** · 06-15-2011, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by yeahloh95

he is not doing the cammed tunes anymore

a little birdy told me, if you goto lethal performances website, you can still order the cammed tune.

http://www.lethalperformance.com/201...n-lund-p-35350

I'd assume any shop that tunes through Lund still can to. Although he seems to be super busy. Been waiting like a week for him to verify if COT was turned off or not in my tune, lol. I guess thats what happens when youre the best.

**somethingclever** · 06-15-2011, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by yeahloh95

he is not doing the cammed tunes anymore

why not?

**Mark Aubele** · 06-15-2011, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by somethingclever

why not?

He realized how ricey they were, and saved himself before he became known for being a purveyor of riceyness.

**Seer** · 06-15-2011, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by somethingclever

why not?

Lund supposedly had a friend at Ford Racing, who asked him nicely to stop, since it was infringing on the BOSS Track Key profile.

Although according to Lund, he actually had access to the hex behind the SCT Data Layers, which is how he had gotten access to the feature/values vs. any other tuner out there.

So in short and less techy, he enabled the feature a different/innovative way that Ford did, but in the end got the same result.

Rumors are saying Ford is going to release a Track Key for the GT, although not sure how since the BOSS and GT use a different PCM. From my understanding the BOSS's PCM supports the dual performance modes where the GT does not. So should be interesting to see.