Steelers 2011-2012 thread

**Mark Aubele** · 10-31-2011, 09:16 PM

Originally Posted by Ares

Best defense against the Pats...is a potent offense. I have zero issues with passing game the way it was. I say if they have to pass more to be effective so be it. Longer the offense can stay on field the better.

Now for those damn Ravens who well, look rather average of late. If I hear how they are the best team in the AFC one more time I may puke.

Totally agreed. They tried the run, never really worked well, while the passing game was picking the Pats D apart. We only punted once the entire game, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

I think the Ravens' acclaim is due to their annihilation of the Steelers. Things will be different after next weekend, cannot wait.

**Silverhatch** · 10-31-2011, 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by Ares

I have zero issues with passing game the way it was. I say if they have to pass more to be effective so be it.

To use the run constantly is a shame with the weapons on passing for the Steelers, any idiot can hand the ball off. Ben is such a great passer with unreal receivers, passing should be priorty one.

**PaxtonShelby** · 10-31-2011, 10:22 PM

I agree with everything being said here - the only thing that has upset me in the past is when we insist on running pass plays where the patterns take too long to develop - that was just getting Ben pounded time after time. Sunday was different - most of the time, Ben got rid of the ball quickly - there was no time for him to get hit. We have struggled in the past against press coverage, and that is a game the Ravens can play at times. If the O-line can hold its ground this week I like our chances. If Ben is running for his life, look out.

I like our chances this Sunday. At Bart Scott said...."CAN'T WAIT!!! CAN'T WAIT!!!"

**White5.0** · 10-31-2011, 10:54 PM

you guys are forgetting that the patriots are DEAD LAST in the league in passing defense....The ravens are ranked 3rd.

Passing all day will not work against the ravens. Ben will get pounded all game if we try that amount of passing plays against the ravens

**Mark Aubele** · 11-01-2011, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by White5.0

you guys are forgetting that the patriots are DEAD LAST in the league in passing defense....The ravens are ranked 3rd.

Passing all day will not work against the ravens. Ben will get pounded all game if we try that amount of passing plays against the ravens

We aren't forgetting it. The pass worked against the Pats, so they continued to do it, that is all that is being said.

**John4cam** · 11-01-2011, 07:46 PM

The only thing that will beat the ravens this time around is solid D.

**PaxtonShelby** · 11-02-2011, 01:01 AM

So far the only one ruled out for Sunday is Legursky...hard to imagine Woodley recovering in time. That hammy looked pretty bad. We sure could use him, especially if Harrison can't go - we'll be thin at linebacker. I heard we might be playing some D-lineman at linebacker if necessary.

Let's hope the trainers can work some miracles this week and get our boys back on the field.

**Viper_ed** · 11-06-2011, 10:58 PM

Anyone notice that on the 1st play of the game, the Ravens get flagged for holding negating the Rice touchdown, but the very next play it is STILL 1st and 10 from the original line of scrimmage as the 1st play? WTF happened to 1st and 20???? Last I checked, holding WAS a 10 yd. penalty!

**412mustangz** · 11-07-2011, 01:13 AM

Originally Posted by Viper_ed

Anyone notice that on the 1st play of the game, the Ravens get flagged for holding negating the Rice touchdown, but the very next play it is STILL 1st and 10 from the original line of scrimmage as the 1st play? WTF happened to 1st and 20???? Last I checked, holding WAS a 10 yd. penalty!

Ya, I noticed that too! F*ckin BS..That last drive was rediculous, no reason the ravens shoulda been able to drive 92yds down the field..oh and Big Ben throwin that pick right to Suggs in the 3rd qtr, unacceptable!

**PaxtonShelby** · 11-07-2011, 02:51 PM

The head ref looked/officiated like he had just escaped from the local retirement home.

I'll have to let this one stew a while before I can sum it up rationally...

**John4cam** · 11-07-2011, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by Viper_ed

Anyone notice that on the 1st play of the game, the Ravens get flagged for holding negating the Rice touchdown, but the very next play it is STILL 1st and 10 from the original line of scrimmage as the 1st play? WTF happened to 1st and 20???? Last I checked, holding WAS a 10 yd. penalty!

I'm glad someone else brought that up because I was scratching my head too.

Alot of mistakes on the officiating side for sure.

**A-Rex** · 11-07-2011, 08:19 PM

on running plays, if a hold happens past the line of scrimmage, then it is a spot foul. The penalty would be marked off from the spot where it occurred. Although an rxplanation from the ref would have been nice.

I saw the same thing and thought 'WTF" too. This is the only explanation I could come up with.

**Viper_ed** · 11-07-2011, 11:30 PM

Originally Posted by A-Rex

on running plays, if a hold happens past the line of scrimmage, then it is a spot foul. The penalty would be marked off from the spot where it occurred. Although an rxplanation from the ref would have been nice.

I saw the same thing and thought 'WTF" too. This is the only explanation I could come up with.

OK, that's fine, but the file occurred 7 to 8 yards from the line of scrimmage. Even Collinsworth commented that if Smith didn't hold, they would of held Rice to about an 8 yard gain.

**A-Rex** · 11-08-2011, 05:38 PM

yeah - it was puzzling to me too. that was the only thing I could think of - except that the refs were idiots.

**Ares** · 11-08-2011, 09:21 PM

James Harrison was an animal and looked good. Is it me or does he look more menacing with the tinted visor? Lots of good and bad in that game but Tomlin. WTF were you doing on the last Steeler drive? Call timeout and kick the field goal or do you really not trust the kicker to try a 47 yarder?

Prevent D, gotta love it. Prevents you from winning. If they can play man against the Pats why not against the Ravens?

**A-Rex** · 11-08-2011, 11:13 PM

I think the Ravens have bigger more physical receivers than the Patsys. That might have played into it. Plus no Woodley - so you aren't getting the pass rush like you normally do.

If the Steelers could have won - they'd have the inside track on the #1 seed. Now they'll be a wild card team, unless Balt collapses.

**AdamantiumSilvr** · 11-09-2011, 01:04 AM

From what bits of the game I did watch the refs definately suck't!

**PaxtonShelby** · 11-13-2011, 05:01 PM

Nice job today in Cinci. Nice to see Willie Gay come up with the INT to help seal the deal. Really hard running by Mendenhall - he took a lot of shots and ran thru a few of them. Ben did a nice job too. With Buffalo, KC, and San Diego falling apart, our chances are looking better for securing a wild card if we can't catch the Ravens.

**412mustangz** · 11-28-2011, 12:51 AM

I sure hope tonight was the result of coming off of a bye week and that they will come back next week playing like the dominant team they are suppose to be! or else were in trouble..

**PaxtonShelby** · 11-28-2011, 09:52 AM

I hear ya JB - but at least we came out with a win - without Woodley, without Troy, and without Ben injuring his thumb any further. It was a frustrating game, but the KC defense deserves a lot of credit. They are playing at a very high level. And when we play a struggling offense, LeBeau tends to dial back the defense, knowing that the opposition will have to put together a long drive to score. It isn't fun to watch and it keeps the game close, but you have to give LeBeau the nod as he's one of the best for a reason.

Had Moore not fumbled on our way in for a score the game wouldn't have been so close. That play where Ben hit the TE for the score was a great play on both ends.

Time to put on the big-boy pants and get ready for Cincy - they really got lucky against the Browns - down by 10 in the 4th and pulled it out. If we can win the next 2 games we should have a lock on a wildcard spot. The game on Monday night in San Fran will be a tough one - the 49ers are playing well ( which says a lot about how the Ravens are playing based on how they dumped San Fran on Thanksgiving ) and will really be up for that one. Finishing up with the Rams and the Browns shouldn't be a problem, even if those games end up meaning something for us.