Enough with the ricer "stage #" talk

[White5.0]

I would say that stage 2 has a little more balls than the stage 1, but just not quite as much as stage 3.

hope this helps.

hahaha thanks for clearing that up for me! That should make any decision on vehicle purchasing from now on a lot easier now that I understand the stages!

[frankstang]

Lifes a stage.

[Slow01GT]

really? I don't think everyone knows what that means. So you are telling me the guy's STI in the craigslist ad that I posted, other STI owners know what he means by saying he has a stage 2 ECU?

If you know, please explain to me...I'm curious as to what parameters are changed in the tune?

Yes, that is what I'm telling you. Most companies such as Cobb provide stage tunes in their handheld tuners that coincide with the modifications on the vehicle. A stage 2 would be for mods like a turbo-back exhaust and intake upgrades. The more mods, the higher the tune stage that's needed to support them.

[White5.0]

Yes, that is what I'm telling you. Most companies such as Cobb provide stage tunes in their handheld tuners that coincide with the modifications on the vehicle. A stage 2 would be for mods like a turbo-back exhaust and intake upgrades. The more mods, the higher the tune stage that's needed to support them.

Yeah but I guess my point is, people that "understand" what he means by stage 2 just know that it "just works" for that amount of mods, but they dont know exactly what it does.

I prefer knowing the details of things like that, but thats just me. I understand not everyone needs to know all the little details

[White5.0]

Lifes a stage.

Indeed.

[PaxtonShelby]

I would say that stage 2 has a little more balls than the stage 1, but just not quite as much as stage 3.

hope this helps.

[Slow01GT]

I think saying stage 2 ecu is automotive shorthand for I have such and such mods but don't feel like listing them all

[map22]

i have the stage 3 sticker mods

[phillysrt4]

Stage 3 dominates all!

especially in a neon ;)

On a more serious note, there is some degree of validity in using the "stage X" descriptor. Like slow01gt said, its a shorthand for a mod or list of mods. The problem is that unless you are into "the scene" for that car just seeing "stage X" is meaningless.

[cwh19]

I think saying stage 2 ecu is automotive shorthand for I have such and such mods but don't feel like listing them all

This.

A good friend of mine has a wrx that he had tuned at mach V, a dsm/subaru/bmw shop in virginia. Whenever they asked him what he had doneto the car before the pro tune he said a stage 2 cobb tune and they knew exactly what that meant. They put it on the dyno as it came in and it made 221whp and they said it would make 220.

I know what you mean though, sometimes the stage terms get thrown around like nothing and it makes the owner sound like an idiot. But they are definitely meaningful when the person isn't acting like a tool lol.

[Cam99]

I have a stage 17 headache

[97LaserRed]

just trying to see where to draw a line on stage mods. To me an STI owner saying he has a stage 2 ecm tune and a cobra owner saying he has a stage 3 ported eaton is the same thing. Both owner groups will know what it means

Yes same thing

I would say that stage 2 has a little more balls than the stage 1, but just not quite as much as stage 3.

hope this helps.

truth!


He is correct. vw is the same thing. Just gotta ask around about mods. More mods= different tune = higher stage

Yes, that is what I'm telling you. Most companies such as Cobb provide stage tunes in their handheld tuners that coincide with the modifications on the vehicle. A stage 2 would be for mods like a turbo-back exhaust and intake upgrades. The more mods, the higher the tune stage that's needed to support them.

[AutomagicSN98]

If thats a wrx sti it has a downgraded body kit.

[SlowSix]

This.

A good friend of mine has a wrx that he had tuned at mach V, a dsm/subaru/bmw shop in virginia. Whenever they asked him what he had doneto the car before the pro tune he said a stage 2 cobb tune and they knew exactly what that meant. They put it on the dyno as it came in and it made 221whp and they said it would make 220.

I know what you mean though, sometimes the stage terms get thrown around like nothing and it makes the owner sound like an idiot. But they are definitely meaningful when the person isn't acting like a tool lol.

+1. Stages correspond to certain mods.
Stage 2 on a WRX is full turbo back exhaust (including downpipe and such) and a handheld programmer flash tune.
APR Stage 2 on a 1.8T jetta is a flash tune, a front mount intercooler, turbo back exhaust, and different diverter valve.

[oldfox]

I was flashed at what must have been a stage 2-- she got a free beer from me

[Martin0660]

For example, I was looking at an ad on craigslist for an STI that the owner states that the ECU is "flashed to a stage 2"...WTF ON EARTH DOES THAT MEAN?!?

I dunno, was pretty easy for me to see what he was talking about and i'm not into that scene ...

The ad says " It has an Invidia bellmouth down pipe and a Cobb Accessport V2 which comes with the car and is not for sale seperately.
It is flashed to a stage 2 and runs amazingly well. "

I copied Cobb Accessport V2, and pasted it into google and come up with this ...

http://www.cobbtuning.com/products/?id=3264

Clicking the requirements link for Stage 2 shows more detail on what is required, and what it gets you ...

The only thing that might be confusing is the wat he typed it ...

[Martin0660]

I am referring to the people that just say that their car "has stage 2 cams" without listing a part# or manufacturer

Now if you want to rant about something, lets talk about people / shops / tuners that only post AFTER dyno curves ... C'mon man, i'm not F'ing stupid, you want to brag on your magic work show me BEFORE and AFTER on the same dyno and we can decide if your work is worth anything ... otherwise we could all race dynos on the internet ...

[phillysrt4]

you see the stages a lot in the Harley world, too.

check this guy out. he's either being totally honest or he's completely nuts.

Stage .5

http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/mcy/2484272536.html

harley owners use "stage x" nomenclature?

[phillysrt4]

I have a stage 17 headache

Did you try using Aleeve™ and activating the high octane drug map? that might solve it

[PaceFever79]

I would say that stage 2 has a little more balls than the stage 1, but just not quite as much as stage 3.

hope this helps.

Thanks, I just choked on my coffee!