Thoughts on ZL1 camaro?

**Martin0660** · 09-10-2011, 10:48 PM

**Steve-0** · 09-11-2011, 12:38 AM

Originally Posted by ModularMike

I would take one GT500 over 5 Camaro's any day of the week.

X100000
Seriously.

**Mark Aubele** · 09-11-2011, 01:01 AM

I would take the 5 camaros, sell them, and buy a Z06, a CTS-V, and a BOSS 302.

**speedracer** · 09-11-2011, 06:32 AM

Originally Posted by Mark Aubele

I would take the 5 camaros, sell them, and buy a Z06, a CTS-V, and a BOSS 302.

I would take the Z06, CTS-V and Boss 302 sell them for a Ford GT

**Mark Aubele** · 09-11-2011, 11:08 AM

I like the Ford GT because you if look at it crosseyed it makes 1000 at the wheels, but for a track car, meh. I'd rather have a Viper ACR. Can I change my choices?

**scott5** · 09-11-2011, 12:14 PM

For over 100k i will take a porsche gt2s

**03 OW SVT** · 09-11-2011, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by scott5

For over 100k i will take a porsche gt2s

Now your talkin son. Glad to see you do have some sense to ya.:D

**scott5** · 09-11-2011, 12:25 PM

But back on topic...

Do you guys feel the zl1 and the gt500 will be a better competition than the gt500 and the zo6?

**PaxtonShelby** · 09-11-2011, 12:28 PM

Ford GT = pure sex

**u1arunit** · 09-11-2011, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by scott5

But back on topic...

Do you guys feel the zl1 and the gt500 will be a better competition than the gt500 and the zo6?

Yes since they are similar type cars.

Btw I like the Challenger, ZL1, and GT500 in that order. Now if they chisel the looks of the GT500 and its weight when they redesign it I would be more interested in it.

**thedak** · 09-11-2011, 03:21 PM

My next car is going to have Magnetic Ride.

**Seer** · 09-11-2011, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by u1arunit

Yes since they are similar type cars.

Btw I like the Challenger, ZL1, and GT500 in that order. Now if they chisel the looks of the GT500 and its weight when they redesign it I would be more interested in it.

Weird, you like the Challenger and ZL1 over the GT500, which both outweigh the GT500 by a decent bit yet you dislike the GT500 due to its weight. Hmm..

Why don't we throw the Boss 302 into the mix as well? It seems to be running the same stock times as all three and out handles them by a large margin.

Take the modding arguement into the mix, it has a forged bottom end, and has no problem making over 800 to the wheels.

**scott5** · 09-11-2011, 04:08 PM

Theres a boss 302 making 800rwhp already? Who built that?

**Mark Aubele** · 09-11-2011, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by scott5

For over 100k i will take a porsche gt2s

Dude, they are $245,000+.

**White5.0** · 09-11-2011, 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by Mark Aubele

Dude, they are $245,000+.

^this.

**White5.0** · 09-11-2011, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by scott5

Theres a boss 302 making 800rwhp already? Who built that?

my guess is that he is referring to the GT500

**Seer** · 09-11-2011, 05:37 PM

Evolution performance built a Boss making 834rwhp. All it has done is some fuel upgrades and a procharger. Its in the Nov 5.0 Magazine. Theres also a 785hp Boss 302 as well which has a KB Mammoth in Oct 5.0 Mustang.

Here's some fun facts about the Boss 302:

Fully forged bottom end
Out-handles the standard Porsche 911 Turbo (Hell the regular GT out does the new M3)
Has run bottom 12's show room stock, and 11.8 with drag radials

Can make over 750rwhp with ease with forced induction on a stock shortblock.

Originally Posted by White5.0

my guess is that he is referring to the GT500

nope... referring to the 444hp Boss 302 5.0L

**Mark Aubele** · 09-11-2011, 08:03 PM

Define outhandles. I love the Boss 302 and the GT, but that is a bit of a stretch. In a couple of tests the GT has come close to the M3 in laptimes, but to make a blanket statement like that isn't really accurate. And I don't think a Boss is going to outrun a new gen 911 Turbo on too many road courses, regardless of Motor Trend's LS lap times where they show the Boss to be faster around the track than the Z06. Still don't understand how they came to the results they did, smells fishy to me, considering the Z06 was 18 seconds faster around VIR than the GT, and the 911 was 11 seconds quicker IIRC. I guarantee the Boss isn't 11 seconds a lap faster than the GT.

**mustang50lx** · 09-11-2011, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by Mark Aubele

I would take the 5 camaros, sell them, and buy a Z06, a CTS-V, and a BOSS 302.

That CTS-V wagon is awesome.

I always loved wagons. It's just slightly out of my price range for a grocery getter. If they take one of the zeros off the end of the price I'll go buy one.

**Seer** · 09-11-2011, 08:33 PM

Originally Posted by Mark Aubele

Define outhandles. I love the Boss 302 and the GT, but that is a bit of a stretch. In a couple of tests the GT has come close to the M3 in laptimes, but to make a blanket statement like that isn't really accurate. And I don't think a Boss is going to outrun a new gen 911 Turbo on too many road courses, regardless of Motor Trend's LS lap times where they show the Boss to be faster around the track than the Z06. Still don't understand how they came to the results they did, smells fishy to me, considering the Z06 was 18 seconds faster around VIR than the GT, and the 911 was 11 seconds quicker IIRC. I guarantee the Boss isn't 11 seconds a lap faster than the GT.

OMG stop the presses, Mark Aubele says one thing but countless professional drivers say another.

It's been tested and proven. I think the experts know a little bit more than you do.

It's been stated many times, the M3 and 11 5.0 are a driver's race around the corners. What is so hard to believe how both variants of the Boss 302 are world class handling cars? Oh because it's a Mustang? Perhaps you need a history lesson.