Thoughts on ZL1 camaro?

**scott5** · 09-10-2011, 04:13 PM

Numbers been released 580hp.. Think this is finally the even competition for the gt500?

**speedracer** · 09-10-2011, 04:46 PM

2 fat over weight pigs

**scott5** · 09-10-2011, 04:55 PM

Very true. They are around same weight and hp. So it should be a nice comparison.. I take the looks of the gt500 over the zl1 tho..

**speedracer** · 09-10-2011, 05:03 PM

I heard the ZL1 is going to weigh 4100lbs

**speedracer** · 09-10-2011, 05:14 PM

4200lbs thats 300 more than the GT500

http://rumors.automobilemag.com/2012...nds-74133.html

**03 OW SVT** · 09-10-2011, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by scott5

Very true. They are around same weight and hp. So it should be a nice comparison.. I take the looks of the gt500 over the zl1 tho..

Wow! you feeling alright? I thought you said you didn't like Mustangs in another thread?! Make up your mind son.;)

I'm torn, I like the looks of both of them, until i see the interior of the Camaro. Yuck!

**Seer** · 09-10-2011, 06:09 PM

2013 GT500, 620hp. 300lbs lighter... enough said.

**White5.0** · 09-10-2011, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by Blue

2013 GT500, 620hp. 300lbs lighter... enough said.

proof?

**Seer** · 09-10-2011, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by White5.0

proof?

Still speculation, but theres been to many mule sightings for Ford to let Chevy be king for this generations.

http://www.caranddriver.com/news/car...er-future_cars

This is just one of many quick things you'll find if you google or read other boards.

What do I think? I think it keeps its mod motor 5.4 and adds a TVS from the factory to get over 600bhp.

**Troll** · 09-10-2011, 06:42 PM

1 cam > 4 cams.

no matter what way you guys lean, hp wars in detroit is a good thing.
a REAL good thing.

I am amazed that it's gone on for the last 5 years or so with the new challenger, mustang and camaro. it's awesome no matter what.

now, we got a n/a 470hp 6.4L hemi, a sc 580hp 6.2L gm and a sc 600+(?)hp 5.8L(?) ford coming soon... good times indeed.

**scott5** · 09-10-2011, 07:22 PM

Dont forget adam that the new srt8 jeep is going to have over 600

**scott5** · 09-10-2011, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by Blue

2013 GT500, 620hp. 300lbs lighter... enough said.

Im talking Bout now.. Who knows whats in store next year ESP this becomes a tight race then both automakers will keep stepping up there game and like adam said that is a great thing. And if the 620 and 300 lbs lighter is true then the race will be like it is now btw the c6 z06 and the gt500 cause the differences are nearly the same

**scott5** · 09-10-2011, 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by 2011GB/CS

Wow! you feeling alright? I thought you said you didn't like Mustangs in another thread?! Make up your mind son.;)

I'm torn, I like the looks of both of them, until i see the interior of the Camaro. Yuck!

Kev you know me well enough to know how i am hahaha

**Seer** · 09-10-2011, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by scott5

Im talking Bout now.. Who knows whats in store next year ESP this becomes a tight race then both automakers will keep stepping up there game and like adam said that is a great thing. And if the 620 and 300 lbs lighter is true then the race will be like it is now btw the c6 z06 and the gt500 cause the differences are nearly the same

According to that article the 2012 Camaro ZL1 won't hit lots till February 2012. Ford will be releasing their 2013 Mustangs in March/April 2012. So they both will get sold at the same time.

Edit: now when I say the GT500 is 300lbs lighter, I don't mean from it's current weight to now, I mean it's 300lbs lighter than a ZL1 Camaro.

**Sonic03snake** · 09-10-2011, 07:41 PM

If I had to choose... id take the Shelby on looks alone. I was a hardcore camaro guy for years but just don't care for the look of the new ones. The challenger is the best done retro imo

**PaxtonShelby** · 09-10-2011, 10:31 PM

4200 pounds - really? Jeez - that's more than a 2003 Mercury Marauder! (4165 lbs )

**03 OW SVT** · 09-10-2011, 11:10 PM

Imagine if these cars only wayed as much as a 5.0 notch from the late 80's early 90's with this amount of power. They'ed be mid 10 second cars.

**ModularMike** · 09-10-2011, 11:19 PM

I would take one GT500 over 5 Camaro's any day of the week.

**speedracer** · 09-10-2011, 11:27 PM

Originally Posted by 2011GB/CS

Imagine if these cars only wayed as much as a 5.0 notch in the late 80's early 90's with this amount of power. They'ed be mid 10 second cars.

There are a few threads on SVTP about the 2014 Mustang being smaller and lighter and a lot of the idiots start talking Mustang II... I'd give a lung both kidneys (they make stones anyways) and a nut for a 3300-3400lb GT500 or preferably a 2014 SVT Cobra

**Mark Aubele** · 09-10-2011, 11:39 PM

You will never again have a 3300lb. Mustang. As small as the 1M BMW is, it still weighs around 3300, and if Ford made the Mustang that size people would bitch and moan because it is so small. But Chevrolet has been providing 3200ish lb. RWD performance for years, the Corvette.

Not a big fan of the Camaros. My buddy has an SS, chances are another 150 horsepower wouldn't change my mind, but the first GT500 to impress me was the '11, so what do I know.