2013 Shelby GT500... confirmed 5.8L V8 TVS Supercharged

**Seer** · 10-05-2011, 12:07 AM

http://mustangsdaily.com/blog/2011/1...percharged-v8/

With a TVS 2300 too.

**White5.0** · 10-05-2011, 12:14 AM

pretty cool but still wish they went with some turbos instead

**PaxtonShelby** · 10-05-2011, 12:35 AM

I was hoping that a big-brother version of the Coyote would end up in there...

I wonder if they are boring the cylinders or stroking it to get it to 5.8? Part of the reason the Coyote is outperforming the Condor ( 5.4 ) with the same amount of boost is due to the higher rpms allowed due to the shorter stroke ( as well as the TiVCt ). If they're stroking the 5.4 to get 5.8, the 5.8 will be limited rpm-wise even more compared to the Coyote.

Either way I guess an increase in power is an improvement, right?

**Seer** · 10-05-2011, 01:47 AM

Originally Posted by PaxtonShelby

I was hoping that a big-brother version of the Coyote would end up in there...

I wonder if they are boring the cylinders or stroking it to get it to 5.8? Part of the reason the Coyote is outperforming the Condor ( 5.4 ) with the same amount of boost is due to the higher rpms allowed due to the shorter stroke ( as well as the TiVCt ). If they're stroking the 5.4 to get 5.8, the 5.8 will be limited rpm-wise even more compared to the Coyote.

Either way I guess an increase in power is an improvement, right?

I could be wrong but I thought this 5.8 had more in common with the 6.2 because both motors are being built in the same plant.

**White5.0** · 10-05-2011, 08:27 AM

Originally Posted by PaxtonShelby

I was hoping that a big-brother version of the Coyote would end up in there...

I wonder if they are boring the cylinders or stroking it to get it to 5.8? Part of the reason the Coyote is outperforming the Condor ( 5.4 ) with the same amount of boost is due to the higher rpms allowed due to the shorter stroke ( as well as the TiVCt ). If they're stroking the 5.4 to get 5.8, the 5.8 will be limited rpm-wise even more compared to the Coyote.

Either way I guess an increase in power is an improvement, right?

the rumor for a long time was that they are going to bore out the 5.4 to increase the displacement.

I agree though, they need to put a variant of the coyote in the GT500....that 5.4 is such old technology. The engine has been around since 1997. I dont know why they are still sticking with it. They need the new engine for all its improvements - piston cooling jets, TiVCT, etc etc.

Just imagine a twin turbo 5.0 that you can take to 7k+ rpm

**scott5** · 10-05-2011, 07:16 AM

Shoulda went with 6.2 and twins

**SAC81** · 10-05-2011, 09:25 AM

Are people seriously complaining that a TVS2300 blown 5.8L making 600 factory horsepower isn't enough? LOL

This is insane. Stuff just keeps getting faster and faster. Ten years ago a 12-second street car was really fast, now they're average at best as the factories are unleashing monsters like this thing.

**u1arunit** · 10-05-2011, 11:35 AM

Hell if the car looks good and it comes out to be light enough it just might be able to sway me back to a Ford. I like what I see so far.

**stevec5ws6** · 10-05-2011, 11:46 AM

A blown 5.0 would have done far more with far less in my opinion, but always good to see any auto company stepping it up.

**speedracer** · 10-05-2011, 12:02 PM

After seeing the power the 5.4 in the FGT could make (and stay in one piece) I'd stick with it.

**no1sirbutler** · 10-05-2011, 10:11 PM

Originally Posted by speedracer

After seeing the power the 5.4 in the FGT could make (and stay in one piece) I'd stick with it.

You make a valid point......a FGT is my dream car

**Stangman701** · 10-05-2011, 05:56 PM

They never really said it was going to be based off the current 5.4. Since they noted same plant as the 6.2 I wouldn't be surprised if this ends up being a big bore 2V motor like the 6.2. That would be really awesome because then you'd most likely have a 4" bore with the ability to have much more displacement with a stroker kit. That's what I'm hoping for at least. Not that I would be able to afford one either way, lol.

**Seer** · 10-06-2011, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by Stangman701

They never really said it was going to be based off the current 5.4. Since they noted same plant as the 6.2 I wouldn't be surprised if this ends up being a big bore 2V motor like the 6.2. That would be really awesome because then you'd most likely have a 4" bore with the ability to have much more displacement with a stroker kit. That's what I'm hoping for at least. Not that I would be able to afford one either way, lol.

All signs point to it being a 4V.

**speedracer** · 10-05-2011, 06:08 PM

I'd be excited if it was going to have less fat...

**Sonic03snake** · 10-05-2011, 10:03 PM

Can't wait to see what its made of. Couldn't be happier with mine,the new one should be sick.

**FineLineMtrSprt** · 10-05-2011, 10:10 PM

Lot of people assume this will be a bored/stroked 5.4...they havent said that.....only that it will be 5.8L. Its not very hard to make the current 5.0 into a 5.8...just sayin...

**stevec5ws6** · 10-06-2011, 10:11 AM

It's good to see some added displacement, that's about 351 CI.

the 5.4 in the GT was a special block if i recall, or have they moved that technology into the aluminum block 5.4 GT500's now?

I think everyone would love to have a ford GT i sure as hell would.

**Sonic03snake** · 10-06-2011, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by stevec5ws6

It's good to see some added displacement, that's about 351 CI.

the 5.4 in the GT was a special block if i recall, or have they moved that technology into the aluminum block 5.4 GT500's now?

I think everyone would love to have a ford GT i sure as hell would.

2011 GT 500s have a new revised aluminim block.