2011-2012 Capri Winter Upgrades

**Martin0660** · 10-28-2011, 06:12 PM

It's that time of year again, started to aquire parts for my winter upgrades. Yes, I know it's early, but as typical, I start pretty early and end up struggling to make the early season races. Two big items on my list this year, plus a pile of little stuff.

The core of the first big project showed up today ... Building a G-Force T5 :D Pictured is the GF gear kit (includes the fluids shown) plus a .82 over drive gear set.

This is the helical gear, syncronized kit. Gears will be ‎2.94, 1.94, 1.34, 1.00, then of course the .82 OD combined with a 4.10 rear. I also ordered the GF alloy main shaft, it's just not here yet. Along with this, I will be changing from my 10 spline clutch to a 26 spline.

**Martin0660** · 10-28-2011, 06:17 PM

This is the second part of the projects this year ... No intent to spray it racing typically, just something to play with at the NMRA type races or an occasional glory run ...

**ModularMike** · 10-28-2011, 06:57 PM

NOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

Very nice Bob.

**PaxtonShelby** · 10-28-2011, 09:04 PM

Nnnaaawwwwwssssssssss!!!!!!!

As much as I HATE winter, it is always fun to follow your winter projects!

Are you using a regular T5 case? How much power will it be good for with those guts? I'd love to have a T5 that could survive more serious punishment in my '66.

**Martin0660** · 10-28-2011, 10:38 PM

Originally Posted by PaxtonShelby

As much as I HATE winter, it is always fun to follow your winter projects!

LOL, it's also how I pass the time ;) Nothing else to do so I might as well take pictures and entertain myself and some others ;)

Originally Posted by PaxtonShelby

Are you using a regular T5 case?

Yes, stock case. I have talked to a lot of people, especailly people with GF experience and racers, and nobody could really say that the aftermarket G Force case was much, if any better than a stock case with the right parts.

Originally Posted by PaxtonShelby

How much power will it be good for with those guts?

Keep in mind, in addition to the gear set, I'm upgrading to the alloy main shaft, plus adding a billet cluster support (neither here yet ;) ), but it's still something you have to put in context. Here is what they say ...

With the available upgraded 9310 mainshaft, these synchronized gear kits will handle roughly 600 hp or 500 ft-lb. of torque in a 3300 lb. vehicle with drag radials and moderate clutch upgrade.

When you really talk to those in the know, this is affected by a lot. Add an aggressive clutch, slicks, and big RPM clutch drops, and it goes down ... How far ???? .... well, I'm going to have to do that durabilty testing :D

I think it will fit my combo well. I am going back to a Spec 3+ clutch with a marcel spring (The 4 puck without marcel is very agressive), They said that fits their "moderate clutch" range ... And although I do high RPM clutch sidesteps, it's really not under torque like a V8 would be until the boost comes in. In reality, I had just crossed a point where stock T5's was failing from torque, so this is a big step up anyway.

**Fast Gypsy** · 10-28-2011, 11:01 PM

Bob, I've never met or talked to you, but I enjoy reading all the advise you have for all the members. I finally got to PRP last Sat.to run my 88 fox that I have been putting together since last winter.It has a 408 CI 351w, C4, 410 spool. My two best times were, 10.40 @ 130.1 and 10.33 @ 129.25. Needless to say, I was very pleased. I'm 71 years young and this is fast enough for me. I'd like to attend a NMRA event next year and tag along with you guys.Fast Gypsy Vince Ciganik Allison Park,Pa.

**Martin0660** · 10-28-2011, 11:22 PM

Thanks vince, I appreciate that! Sounds like you have a nice piece there and hope i can meet you some time ... I always post in the events section when we are going to NMRA or whatever, and the more the merrier for sure

**yeahloh95** · 10-29-2011, 10:08 AM

looks like a lot of great parts there

**biminiLX** · 10-30-2011, 10:41 PM

Lookin good Bob, I know we talked about loosing 1st gear ratio, but I think the car might do better with it overall, or just leave off a small shot :) and it could help you spool a BIG turbo later ;)
BTW, why the .82 OD?
-J

**Martin0660** · 10-30-2011, 10:54 PM

Originally Posted by biminiLX

Lookin good Bob, I know we talked about loosing 1st gear ratio, but I think the car might do better with it overall, or just leave off a small shot :)

Yeah, through this year I have (un-intentionally) added 1st gear ... Started with 3.50/3.73 and was border line on traction ... Went to 3.97/3.73 and lost 60' (what I had at Milan) ... In preperation for a new tranny I got the new gears installed (3.97 / 4.10) and couldn't buy traction on one of the best starting lines I've seen. So going up is the right move, it's just a big jump to work through. I needed the rear gear anyway as I was crossing too low in RPM, the good news is I'm mostly happy with that now with the 4.10 in there, it just killed me off the launch.

I am implementing the launch control strategy in my Squirt this winter ... I can pull timing starting at X rpms and increase the pull as needed up to the rev limiter. We will see what boost I can get in with that.

Originally Posted by biminiLX

and it could help you spool a BIG turbo later ;)

Nah, this junk is done as far as engine evolution ... I'm just going to get what I can out of this combo of parts, hopefully can actually hook & shift it, but it is, what it is ... The parts are there to run what I want to now.

Originally Posted by biminiLX

BTW, why the .82 OD?

4 banger thing ... remember at 2500 rpm in 5th, I'm at NO boost, so it's a 8:1 compression 4 banger ... without gear there, you are in and out of 5th constantly cruising around ...

**Martin0660** · 10-31-2011, 07:34 PM

Some supporting nitrous parts came today ... automatic heater, blanket, flexible blow down kit, misc other bits ...

**Ares** · 10-31-2011, 07:56 PM

What adding nitrous too!

Game on man, game on

**Martin0660** · 10-31-2011, 08:00 PM

Originally Posted by Ares

Game on man, game on

Hey c'mon, you already have twice the cylinders, a blower coming, plus going to something like 4 times the valves I have (I've got 8 lousy valves) ....

We already know 2.3 = 4.6, I'll give you the power adder, you still have to spot me the valves

Oh ...... bring it

**Martin0660** · 11-01-2011, 06:11 PM

UPS guy is getting tired :D

Billet nitrous bottle bracket ...

Stifflers Crossmember ...

**Steve-0** · 11-01-2011, 06:28 PM

Wow looking good. That billet bottle bracket looks fancy haha.

And the ups people should get over it, it's their job! My guy only gets mad when I order wheels and tires for my truck.

**Slow01GT** · 11-01-2011, 08:08 PM

Very nice Bob. I am also hoping to make the ups/fedex drivers sick of my house this winter

**Martin0660** · 11-02-2011, 06:08 PM

Another day, more parts ;)

This is the Astro "level 4" rebuild kit ...

A few interesting things with their parts. The 1 & 2 syncronizers are new assemblies with what they call "Carbon Particle" lining and have different cone angles than stock. the 3 & 4 Sychro rings are carbon fiber lined. This is the 1 or 2 assemblies (hard to get a clear picture) ...

I also ordered their billet cluster support. It is pictured here with the stock style stamped one ...

**yeahloh95** · 11-02-2011, 09:23 PM

very nice parts do you have all the trans parts now ?

**Martin0660** · 11-02-2011, 09:35 PM

Still missing the main shaft. G Force is out of stock, estimated to ship 11/21 (hope anyway).

I am going to drop the input shaft off at the machine shop tomorrow (machine for 2.3 pilot).