You will hardly ever get a dealer to buy a vehicle for close to trade in unless they really want the vehicle or know they can make a ton of money on it. Most dealers or (stealerships) buy cars or truck using the auction report. They look at what the "similar" type of vehicle goes for and lowball you at that.....Someone may have touched on this already as I did not read the entire thread....Sell your car outright using between retail and private party....That always works for me!!