Scott... you know the haters are just going to say for $7000 difference in price, they would put a supercharger on the Boss and be faster than the Camaro!
That's right... for once the Ford nut-swingers can cry the same tune the GM nut-swingers have been chanting for 9 years
"Put a supercharger on our car and see what happens"
Haha!!Originally Posted by Troll
That's right... for once the Ford nut-swingers can cry the same tune the GM nut-swingers have been chanting for 9 years
"Put a supercharger on our car and see what happens"
Aside from that, 1:41 to 1:43. I'd say that was just one wide curve by the driver.
That's crazy close.
mark
'04 Mach 1. Built. Turbo. 667whp/631wtq
'06 Focus. Built. Turbo. WMI. 12.43 @ 115 (sold)
'03 Mach 1 : 12.61 @ 106.59 (sold)
he's into that, that spiritual stuff. <><
Meh. One look at the times M+T have gotten at Laguna Seca (I know they didn't test these cars there) in the past raises suspicion for me at lease. These are the same guys who claimed the Boss outlapped the Z06, which obviously isn't happening. I will wait until Car and Driver has the ZL1 in the Lightning Lap they run at VIR each year.
That being said, both are incredible cars, and I would kill to have either, although I honestly do prefer the Boss. It isn't like the ZL1 is a slouch or anything, car goes under 8 minutes at the 'Ring, it is a world class sports car, no matter how maligned it is over the fact that it weighs 4000 lbs.
2 seconds on a ~minute and half road course is huge.
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2014 M235i (wife's)
1964 Ford F-100
"There's no substitution for cubic inches."
93 GT, 408
Best ET 10.93, 1.63 60ft, 121MPH
All Motor.
You're right. Goes to show my lack of road racing knowledge.
That's nearly 2% faster and would be around 158 feet between them. (lots of assumptions there)
But yeah I'm wrong.
mark
'04 Mach 1. Built. Turbo. 667whp/631wtq
'06 Focus. Built. Turbo. WMI. 12.43 @ 115 (sold)
'03 Mach 1 : 12.61 @ 106.59 (sold)
he's into that, that spiritual stuff. <><
I'll still take the Boss...or a 2013 GT500...
2014 GT Premium - Sterling Gray Metallic - MT82 - Track Pack - Glass Roof - Recaro seats - Spoiler delete
12.76 @ 114.04 bone stock. Koni yellow coil-overs, BMR watts, LCA and LCA relo brackets, Borla S-type axle back.
1966 Coupe - 331 stroker - Bullet custom roller cam - cam and motor installed and dyno tuned by Rodeheavers Hot Rod - Astro A5 - McLeod RXT - 486 to the wheels - more fun than my little tires can handle
1966 Oldsmobile Toronado - currently NOT on jackstands
+1
Let's see how it does against the GT500
2004 SVT Cobra - sold
2000 Yamaha R1
2006 Yamaha R1 - Raven
10.89 @ 127.6 1.61 60' with a ported Eaton
You said it Ron, I'll bet the 2013 GT500 will Wax Some ZL1 Ass.
Just saying!
17 Ram 1500 Big Horn Hemi
16 Comp O GT Performance Pack
03 Oxford white Cobra (Gone but not forgotten)
You're right. Goes to show my lack of road racing knowledge.
That's nearly 2% faster and would be around 158 feet between them. (lots of assumptions there)
But yeah I'm wrong.
2014 Mustang GT Stock and for sale
2014 M235i (wife's)
1964 Ford F-100
I dont like either to tell ya the truth.. Give me a Z06 that does better at everything than all of them and I will be fine.
There is quite a price difference...
gt500 will be close.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/tests/vi...02-laguna-seca
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I need back seats, so not a big fan of the vette. I'd take a zl1 over the boss, the 13 gt500 might be a different story though:)
Hey fire, meet fuel LOL. Ford to chicken to race a zl1 with the 13 gt500
http://jalopnik.com/5859957/the-shel...e-la-auto-show
Camaro chief claims ZL1 will outperform Shelby GT500
By John Neff
Posted Jan 20th 2012 2:00PM
It would seem on paper that the 2013 Ford Shelby Mustang GT500 should easily slay the heavier and less powerful 2012 Chevy Camaro ZL1. The former weighs 3,850 pounds and brings 650 horsepower and 600 pound-feet of torque to the table, the latter carries 4,120 pounds and 580 hp/556 lb-ft.
Not so fast, says Camaro Chief Engineer Al Oppenheiser (above). Speaking with Autoblog at an Arizona drive event for the Camaro ZL1, Oppenheiser told us, "We've done simulations. We predict that the ZL1 will be quicker to 60 than the [2013] GT500... We ran the Nürburgring and released a time. Ford took the GT500, too, and never released a time. I guess you can draw your own conclusions."
When asked point-blank if he thought the ZL1 would be quicker around the 'Ring, Oppenheiser replied, "No question."
Them sounds like fighting words, especially in the face of data that suggests the opposite is true. Remember, this is the same guy who told Mustang fans "you're welcome" for encouraging Ford to throw everything it can at the Camaro.
But we're not counting Oppenheiser among the crazy just yet. All that power generated by the GT500's supercharged 5.8-liter V8 will be for naught if it can't reach the ground without turning into tire vapor, and let's not forget that the Blue Oval's bomber is still dragging around a solid rear axle, compared to the all-independent suspension sporting third-generation Magnetic Ride shocks on the ZL1. And who's doing the driving can always be the great equalizer when talking 'Ring times.
We're still inclined to put our chips on the blue square, but nothing's certain until these two titans of Detroit meet head-to-head.
Nutswing now while you still can lolCamaro chief claims ZL1 will outperform Shelby GT500
By John Neff
Posted Jan 20th 2012 2:00PM
It would seem on paper that the 2013 Ford Shelby Mustang GT500 should easily slay the heavier and less powerful 2012 Chevy Camaro ZL1. The former weighs 3,850 pounds and brings 650 horsepower and 600 pound-feet of torque to the table, the latter carries 4,120 pounds and 580 hp/556 lb-ft.
Not so fast, says Camaro Chief Engineer Al Oppenheiser (above). Speaking with Autoblog at an Arizona drive event for the Camaro ZL1, Oppenheiser told us, "We've done simulations. We predict that the ZL1 will be quicker to 60 than the [2013] GT500... We ran the Nürburgring and released a time. Ford took the GT500, too, and never released a time. I guess you can draw your own conclusions."
When asked point-blank if he thought the ZL1 would be quicker around the 'Ring, Oppenheiser replied, "No question."
Them sounds like fighting words, especially in the face of data that suggests the opposite is true. Remember, this is the same guy who told Mustang fans "you're welcome" for encouraging Ford to throw everything it can at the Camaro.
But we're not counting Oppenheiser among the crazy just yet. All that power generated by the GT500's supercharged 5.8-liter V8 will be for naught if it can't reach the ground without turning into tire vapor, and let's not forget that the Blue Oval's bomber is still dragging around a solid rear axle, compared to the all-independent suspension sporting third-generation Magnetic Ride shocks on the ZL1. And who's doing the driving can always be the great equalizer when talking 'Ring times.
We're still inclined to put our chips on the blue square, but nothing's certain until these two titans of Detroit meet head-to-head.
hahaha look at the pot calling the kettle black!
I didnt say anything. This is what other people are saying. I stated I dont want any of them.
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