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    Quote Originally Posted by Quik View Post
    i dont care for those lists. our track isnt those tracks

    Purestock took a 86 GT to 13.7 completely stock!!!!

    which is why i posted here.....wish we had the timeslip page back

    [cough]lou[cough]

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    I ran bone stock with 84k and K&n stock 3.08 gears 14.3 @ 98mph regular good years. I think it did 1.9x 60' can't remember exactly now

    Pleather seats, AC ( fully loaded lx hatch ) and weighing probably 220lbs (me)
    5 speed.

    1992 LX hatch 5.slow 5 speed

    Quik can drive his notch. that thing was the best bang for buck sale ever.
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    To put it as plain and simple as I can. With a automatic (yuk) you hit a performance barrier a lot sooner than you would with a 5-speed manual trans. 5L. As stated earlier in this thread a more aggressive converter(read: higher stall) is like mimicking a higher launch rpm with a 5-speed. With an auto it takes $$$$ in a converter and with the 5-speed it takes a little more travel on the go-pedal. In near stock form it's gonna almost be impossible to beat a 5-speed car in the e.t. department. ( with a competent driver in the 5-speed who knows where the power band is and when it diminishes)

    Being efficient with the power the vehicle possesses is key to attaining low elapsed times. It does not take much to get a stock longblock 5L into the 12's. High 102 to Low 103 trap speeds coupled with a good 60' and 3 clean powershifts will net a 12 sec. timeslip. If your afraid to break it... it won't run the number. Amen.
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    broke my t-5 twice with a stock shifter. bought a hurst for $50 the rebuilt t-5 lasted 3 years+ since i sold it. aftermarket shifter and normal boltons can make the t-5 survive with fluid change. no comment about 170k stock long blocks with a cam
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaggy View Post
    broke my t-5 twice with a stock shifter. bought a hurst for $50 the rebuilt t-5 lasted 3 years+ since i sold it. aftermarket shifter and normal boltons can make the t-5 survive with fluid change
    There is a fellow on here that has a stock T-5 from 1993, never rebuilt, good 'ole Hurst on top of it and it has withstood sooo many powershifts I cringe each time it gets stirred.:) Currently it is living behind a 425+ RWHP N/A 332 c.i.d. Who says T-5's don't last.

    as a sidenote: I personally buried 9 T-5's
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pure Stock View Post
    There is a fellow on here that has a stock T-5 from 1993, never rebuilt, good 'ole Hurst on top of it and it has withstood sooo many powershifts I cringe each time it gets stirred.:) Currently it is living behind a 425+ RWHP N/A 332 c.i.d. Who says T-5's don't last.

    as a sidenote: I personally buried 9 T-5's
    My dumbass thought a different shifter was pointless. well, I powershifted and missed gears driving like a real moron. doin that with a stock shifter broke always the 3rd gear. so i road around a few days with a broke 3rd.
    normal first gear WOT 2nd and shifted 4th. 4th broke also.

    Since the new shifter. still drove like a moron and it has lasted 3 years+. aftermarket shifter and a good rebuild ( andy mustangs on camp horn road )
    survived the moron in me.

    1st rebuild cost $1200 from cottman trans. second rebuild was another $1200 from them. rebuilt from andy ( $300 and a $50 used hurst ) Thanks for the tow quik. It has lasted till i sold it to domination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaggy View Post
    My dumbass thought a different shifter was pointless. well, I powershifted and missed gears driving like a real moron. doin that with a stock shifter broke always the 3rd gear. so i road around a few days with a broke 3rd.
    normal first gear WOT 2nd and shifted 4th. 4th broke also.

    Since the new shifter. still drove like a moron and it has lasted 3 years+. aftermarket shifter and a good rebuild ( andy mustangs on camp horn road )
    survived the moron in me.

    1st rebuild cost $1200 from cottman trans. second rebuild was another $1200 from them. rebuilt from andy ( $300 and a $50 used hurst ) Thanks for the tow quik. It has lasted till i sold it to domination.
    So you had $2,400.00 in two stock T-5 rebuilds. OMG You were damn near half-way into a G-Force 5R!
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    guess ill tuck my tail and go cry in a corner

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quik View Post
    honestly in my experience with stock 5.0s your way past the peak power
    4800 stangs peak, you were just reving for sake of reving

    i was shifting around 4500-4800 and got those times. ppl always ask why i shifted to low, cause the car slows down if you go anyhigher

    also this car is SD and everyone knows stock for stock SD cars are faster

    i tried to dump clutch at 4k all that did was cause me to go 13.9...slipping it was best with the worn out tires i had

    when its nice again and your up and running we'll go down to area 51 and test your limits of driving against this tired ass notch...and see how youactually do shift and etc
    Sounds good George, I'm gonna hold you to that for sure. Thanks.
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    Oh yeah, where is this area 51?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wick View Post
    Oh yeah, where is this area 51?
    roswell dr...you were there recently...area 51 was code name on the net so ppl didnt know

    your cammed' GT vs my stock motor notch

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pure Stock View Post
    To put it as plain and simple as I can. With a automatic (yuk) you hit a performance barrier a lot sooner than you would with a 5-speed manual trans. 5L. As stated earlier in this thread a more aggressive converter(read: higher stall) is like mimicking a higher launch rpm with a 5-speed. With an auto it takes $$$$ in a converter and with the 5-speed it takes a little more travel on the go-pedal. In near stock form it's gonna almost be impossible to beat a 5-speed car in the e.t. department. ( with a competent driver in the 5-speed who knows where the power band is and when it diminishes)

    Being efficient with the power the vehicle possesses is key to attaining low elapsed times. It does not take much to get a stock longblock 5L into the 12's. High 102 to Low 103 trap speeds coupled with a good 60' and 3 clean powershifts will net a 12 sec. timeslip. If your afraid to break it... it won't run the number. Amen.
    i think if i woudl of 60' alot better it would of dipped but a 1.97 isnt cutting it

    11.50 QTP on 7" rims dont work well

    and i deff agree. ppl love ot over reve these motors and they go slower, i was short shifting it and wentfaster then others......hell you were there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaggy View Post
    My dumbass thought a different shifter was pointless. well, I powershifted and missed gears driving like a real moron. doin that with a stock shifter broke always the 3rd gear. so i road around a few days with a broke 3rd.
    normal first gear WOT 2nd and shifted 4th. 4th broke also.

    Since the new shifter. still drove like a moron and it has lasted 3 years+. aftermarket shifter and a good rebuild ( andy mustangs on camp horn road )
    survived the moron in me.

    1st rebuild cost $1200 from cottman trans. second rebuild was another $1200 from them. rebuilt from andy ( $300 and a $50 used hurst ) Thanks for the tow quik. It has lasted till i sold it to domination.
    sad thing is i actually shifted smoother with the stock shifter then the Tri-ax i have now. or that could of been from changing the sludge of 153k miles of trans fluid for new shit. but i still hate my steeda

    my times were ran with stock shifter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quik View Post
    i think if i woudl of 60' alot better it would of dipped but a 1.97 isnt cutting it

    11.50 QTP on 7" rims dont work well

    and i deff agree. ppl love ot over reve these motors and they go slower, i was short shifting it and wentfaster then others......hell you were there
    Some never get it. Some think they got it. And a few actually do get it.;) Bring it back and put it into the 12's where it belongs!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quik View Post
    sad thing is i actually shifted smoother with the stock shifter then the Tri-ax i have now. or that could of been from changing the sludge of 153k miles of trans fluid for new shit. but i still hate my steeda

    my times were ran with stock shifter
    wow, You can never accept a compliment. you still had a 2nd and 3rd transportation.


    I drove hard 30k+ a year. one car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaggy View Post
    wow, You can never accept a compliment. you still had a 2nd and 3rd transportation.


    I drove hard 30k+ a year. one car.
    i took the compliment and was referring to how i dont like my steeda thats all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pure Stock View Post
    Some never get it. Some think they got it. And a few actually do get it.;) Bring it back and put it into the 12's where it belongs!
    bene thinking of going right past 12s and shooting for 11s on the juice. but im not sure of this car lasting long. the OG clutch is on its way out.

    its like a stalled auto. i can come to a stop sign in 2nd and never touch the clutch and pull away like it was an auto lol lol

    but then again it broke 3-4 loose last night on a powershift

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quik View Post
    roswell dr...you were there recently...area 51 was code name on the net so ppl didnt know

    your cammed' GT vs my stock motor notch
    Oh damn!!! I should have realized. HAHAHA
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    Sorry Jared, I really doubt you'll see 13s.
    I think your auto Fox and my future turbo Focus could have fun playing in the mid 14s.
    You'll prolly beat me, but by just a tenth or so. :)
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    I have no direct experience with stock type 5.0, but from what i've seen at the track, I really doubt you are going to see 13's. especially your "first" times out. It takes a lot of experience, practice, and familiarity with the car to get it to ET.



    I ran this guy (no idea who it is) twice in time trials, 5.0, AOD car, CAI, supposed to have gears and some minor stuff. His slips were 14.20's at 97-ish.

    I think the way more important thing for you your first times out, it to simply set out to have fun. If that is your goal, you wont be disappointed, wont be consumed with "needing" to buy parts, make changes and chase the car. If you go out, take what the car gives you, try to improve your driving, and enjoy racing, hanging out BS'ing you will be a winner. Thats what its about for me, I take what the car will give me, then tweek it to go faster.

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