Dear Cam... Your Camaro sucks part II

**speedracer** · 05-17-2013, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by scott5

The only "muscle car" that is a true drivers car is a viper and guess what it sucks driving.

Nannys? You mean the traction control button? If you cant launch at 6k and pull the front wheels and shift into 2nd while the wheels are up in the air then you cant drive

Viper only sucks if you're steering wheel challenged. My car has TC turned off and as far as pulling the wheels... Street cars with street tires are going to have a hard time doing that. That kind of power is useless in the turnes anyhoo

**Mark Aubele** · 05-18-2013, 01:42 AM

Originally Posted by PaceFever79

I also remember when I paid $11,000 for my brand new 14 second '87 LX 5.0

Then came a 2.5" exhaust, 100 NOS kit, and DRs on 10 holes and it was a low 13 second car for $12,000

The new cars are impressive size and speed wise, but they can't compete in old school value.

12,000 dollars in 1987 is roughly equivalent to 25,000 today, according to http://www.davemanuel.com/inflation-calculator.php.

Which is pretty close to what you can get a new one for. When I was considering an '11 we were looking at just under 28K for a GT with Brembos and nothing else. And the new car is obviously on a whole different level than the fox.

**PaceFever79** · 05-18-2013, 07:03 AM

Originally Posted by Mark Aubele

12,000 dollars in 1987 is roughly equivalent to 25,000 today, according to http://www.davemanuel.com/inflation-calculator.php.

Which is pretty close to what you can get a new one for. When I was considering an '11 we were looking at just under 28K for a GT with Brembos and nothing else. And the new car is obviously on a whole different level than the fox.

I guess the catch with calculators like that is most wages have not kept pace with inflation.

Compound that over 25 years and it makes it seem like they cost more.

**scott5** · 05-18-2013, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by speedracer

Viper only sucks if you're steering wheel challenged. My car has TC turned off and as far as pulling the wheels... Street cars with street tires are going to have a hard time doing that. That kind of power is useless in the turnes anyhoo

Have you driven a Viper? Then why even go to the drag strip then? How come you never go to autox event and show everyone how awesome someone who drove in circles for years can drive. All you do is say how awesome your car can corner then go to the strip and run slow times then say how your car is built for corners?

**Martin0660** · 05-18-2013, 10:03 AM

I remember when I got into the 2.3 game, cheap bang for the buck stuff, lol

**scott5** · 05-18-2013, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by Martin0660

I remember when I got into the 2.3 game, cheap bang for the buck stuff, lol

how is that working for ya now? lol With all the parts you break you could of bought a new 2013 GT500

**speedracer** · 05-18-2013, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by scott5

Have you driven a Viper? Then why even go to the drag strip then? How come you never go to autox event and show everyone how awesome someone who drove in circles for years can drive. All you do is say how awesome your car can corner then go to the strip and run slow times then say how your car is built for corners?

Since you know it all and must be the greatest drag racer ever I expect the the next post from you will be all of your 9 second time slips and photos of your car with the wheels in the air going down the track.

I went to the track to beat a ZL1...

**Martin0660** · 05-18-2013, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by scott5

how is that working for ya now? lol With all the parts you break you could of bought a new 2013 GT500

Unlikely, with the number of actual passes I make in a year, I would just be buying more expensive parts for that. It's hard laps that cause my breakage. I could however buy a new car, hang out in parking lots, and talk a lot about when I used to race. Not much breaks that way ;)

**Martin0660** · 05-18-2013, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by speedracer

I went to the track to beat a ZL1...

Still delivering the LOL's :)

**speedracer** · 05-18-2013, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by Martin0660

Still delivering the LOL's :)

scott must be searching through his photobucket account... Probably 1000's of wheels up photos to sort through to get the very best to post. I'll wait :)

**phillysrt4** · 05-18-2013, 10:42 AM

nevermind... misread

**Cam99** · 05-18-2013, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by Martin0660

Still delivering the LOL's :)

About damn time. This thread is about my camaro sucking, it's gotten way off course.

**speedracer** · 05-18-2013, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by Cam99

About damn time. This thread is about my camaro sucking, it's gotten way off course.

But the fact remains it does suck for being blown... Still waiting on Scott to post all his wheels up photos and his fastest time slips that I'm sure are all within .001 seconds because he has the almighty self shifting turd box for a transmission.

**PaxtonShelby** · 05-18-2013, 02:45 PM

I'm feelin the love here!!

**Cam99** · 05-18-2013, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by speedracer

But the fact remains it does suck for being blown... Still waiting on Scott to post all his wheels up photos and his fastest time slips that I'm sure are all within .001 seconds because he has the almighty self shifting turd box for a transmission.

What the hell does that make your MODDED blown car then homo. Damn I even out trapped you all night with my shit heavy, power robbing slushbox equipped car. God help you when I put a pulley on it

**scott5** · 05-18-2013, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by speedracer

Since you know it all and must be the greatest drag racer ever I expect the the next post from you will be all of your 9 second time slips and photos of your car with the wheels in the air going down the track.

I went to the track to beat a ZL1...

You didn't answer my questions mr. Richard petty.. Have you driven a viper? If not your comment on driving one is useless because you don't know what it drives like. And congrats your modded and suspension lightweight cobra beat a bone stock 5k lb Camaro, still didn't say why you don't throw up these awesome auto-x times

**scott5** · 05-18-2013, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by Martin0660

Unlikely, with the number of actual passes I make in a year, I would just be buying more expensive parts for that. It's hard laps that cause my breakage. I could however buy a new car, hang out in parking lots, and talk a lot about when I used to race. Not much breaks that way ;)

Yea but don't get caught street racing. you get arrested! believe me I know and a HUGE fine and a big pita.. So make sure you just stick to the Irwin car cruise lol

**scott5** · 05-18-2013, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by speedracer

scott must be searching through his photobucket account... Probably 1000's of wheels up photos to sort through to get the very best to post. I'll wait :)

Still waiting for times that are faster on a roadcoarse than a zl1 from your road race fully built car with you being a professional driver and all that knows how to turn the wheel left

**scott5** · 05-18-2013, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by speedracer

But the fact remains it does suck for being blown... Still waiting on Scott to post all his wheels up photos and his fastest time slips that I'm sure are all within .001 seconds because he has the almighty self shifting turd box for a transmission.

Oh... butt hurt your built and modded all mighty BLOWN cobra still hasn't ran as fast as my STOCK motor ls1 that had 133k miles on oh and my car ran 11.44s at 115 four times in a row, how about yours? oh wait you never went that fast with your modded blown built cobra

**scott5** · 05-18-2013, 05:00 PM

probably why you don't take it to a roadcoarse or auto-x event (which you say the car is built for and your a better driver than the stig) is when it runs a dookie time you finally realize you cant drive and your car cant corner and you wasted all your money and you cant take anymore shit