Overheating

**RUSH2112** · 05-02-2007, 03:19 PM

Just called a Ford Dealership. It will cost about $78 for them to set the distributor and adjust the timing. That's not the issue. I told him about the oil pump shaft and he said if he pulls the distributor and it falls into the pan, he'll have to charge me to either pull the engine or the oil pan to remove the shaft. This is where the problem lies.

Mucho Buckos $$$$. Even then, I can't be sure the temperature problem will be gone

**J-rod** · 05-02-2007, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by RUSH2112

Just called a Ford Dealership. It will cost about $78 for them to set the distributor and adjust the timing. That's not the issue. I told him about the oil pump shaft and he said if he pulls the distributor and it falls into the pan, he'll have to charge me to either pull the engine or the oil pan to remove the shaft. This is where the problem lies.

Mucho Buckos $$$$. Even then, I can't be sure the temperature problem will be gone

i dont think it has anything to do with your over heating. imo.

but you need to get it fixed.. and id trust a SCS member before a dealership...a SCS member will not rip you off.

**RUSH2112** · 05-02-2007, 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by Jared

i dont think it has anything to do with your over heating. imo.

but you need to get it fixed.. and id trust a SCS member before a dealership...a SCS member will not rip you off.

So what is causing the overheating. I'd appreciate some advice

I do trust SCS people. They are very knowledgable and typically will be cheaper then a dealership. But with friends or acquantinces, they are not liable. The whole reason I am in this mess now. If ford screws something up, they have to fix it.

**J-rod** · 05-02-2007, 04:03 PM

not really....you just said ford said that if they drop in that part they will charge you for removal.

honestly id try a new thermostat. go get a ford one.

or if in a pinch....try rodeheavers for great work.

**RUSH2112** · 05-02-2007, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by Jared

not really....you just said ford said that if they drop in that part they will charge you for removal.

honestly id try a new thermostat. go get a ford one.

or if in a pinch....try rodeheavers for great work.

Ok. thanks. I am going to check tonight to see if the t-stat is opening. If it is the upper rad hose should be warm around 180 when it opens.

I have been to Tim's before. He does great work at reasonable prices

**madmaxin22** · 05-02-2007, 04:10 PM

LOOKS LIKE THE GUY KNOWS HE F*d up

http://bbs.hardcore50.com/vbulletin/...830#post335397

seems like he didnt mark the distributor and note rotor position and all that good stuff before pulling it out which was his first mistake.... then shipping you on your way knowing it wasnt right was his 2nd mistake...

**RUSH2112** · 05-02-2007, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by madmaxin22

LOOKS LIKE THE GUY KNOWS HE F*d up

http://bbs.hardcore50.com/vbulletin/...830#post335397

Before this gets out of hand, I really can't fault the guy. Anyone who would have removed the distributor would have found the defective part. It was running fine the trip back to PGH. So what changed in 1 day, I don't know.

**RUSH2112** · 05-02-2007, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by madmaxin22

LOOKS LIKE THE GUY KNOWS HE F*d up

http://bbs.hardcore50.com/vbulletin/...830#post335397

seems like he didnt mark the distributor and note rotor position and all that good stuff before pulling it out which was his first mistake.... then shipping you on your way knowing it wasnt right was his 2nd mistake...

You are incorrect. He did mark the distributor and rotor position. I can take a pic of the cap to show you. He did everything by the book. He had difficulty setting the dist in the right way and could on get it in the current way and getting it to go all the way down, especially cause the oil pump shaft was being a biznitch.

The work was done on Saturday and it ran fine saturday nite. Sunday I left and had a 3 hour drive up and down the TPK mountains and the temp gauge never got about 195. All of a sudden on the way to work monday morning the temp is going nutz

**madmaxin22** · 05-02-2007, 04:28 PM

i believe that he did it then... odd situation... check the car out tonight and go from there... if it seems like the thermostat is opening then maybe you should take it to rodeheavers to get checked out by someone that does it everyday

**J-rod** · 05-02-2007, 04:30 PM

i didnt see it, but is there a reason he pulled the dist to begin with?

**RUSH2112** · 05-02-2007, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by Jared

i didnt see it, but is there a reason he pulled the dist to begin with?

To install the upper/lower cobra intake. Maybe the dist doesn't necessarily need to be out to do this, but it might make it easier.

**383taman** · 05-02-2007, 07:38 PM

Yes timing being off meaning retarded will do what you are explaining reason it didnt happen on your way home is because you were on the highway with lots of air movement and car was at a high enough rpm for the timeing to be advanced enough. I would get someone to fix the timing problem and ill bet you your problem is solved.IMO

**RUSH2112** · 05-03-2007, 10:42 AM

I'm picking up a ford factory t-stat and gasket at the dealership on Saturday. I assume this factory t-stat is a 195? Should I go with factory replacement or move to a 180?

1st steps are to replace the t-stat and change the oil (in case coolant got mixed with the oil).

If the car is still running hot, then next step is too replace the radiator with a new one.

**J-rod** · 05-03-2007, 12:35 PM

shouldnt step 1 be fixing the dist rotation?

**RUSH2112** · 05-03-2007, 12:37 PM

I need to get the timing/dist fixed, but I highly doubt that the timing is the only thing causing my temperature to go to redline (270 degrees). I agree that incorrect timing can cause heat problems, but not this bad.

I need to check the t-stat, and drain the oil (it was not changed and might have coolant in it). Once I can get the temp to settle down, even just a little bit, then the timing should correct the rest of it.

If I am wrong, someone please tell me what to do

**J-rod** · 05-03-2007, 12:47 PM

have you found someone to do the timing? how much you figure?

i ask cuz i need to get my tuming bumped soon.

**coralcoupe1993** · 05-03-2007, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by Jared

have you found someone to do the timing? how much you figure?

i ask cuz i need to get my tuming bumped soon.

Bring it over Saturday. I will do it if you want. It will take us 1-5 min.

**RUSH2112** · 05-03-2007, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by coralcoupe1993

Bring it over Saturday. I will do it if you want. It will take us 1-5 min.

If you feel like running up 60 to hopewell, I got one that need done. Gonna be alot more trickier though

**coralcoupe1993** · 05-03-2007, 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by RUSH2112

Gonna be alot more trickier though

Why will it be trickier?

**J-rod** · 05-03-2007, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by coralcoupe1993

Bring it over Saturday. I will do it if you want. It will take us 1-5 min.

ill have to probably come another weekend....planned on having a little cruise down this way with some SCS'ers. i honestly forgot about cinco de mayo.

i def have to come up that way soon....i still ow rob and his wife a dinner with me and the fam so rob's wife can see the baby