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    Ford to discontinue V8 motors in Mustang, F-150 after 2017, will run 4-Cylinder and V

    http://horsepowerkings.com/sources-f...50-after-2017/

    Can you imagine a Mustang GT with no V8? Can you imagine Ford announcing a 2018 Mustang GT, ‘powered by Ecoboost V6?’ We can’t either, and frankly, it makes us sick to even think about. That is why the following information is disturbing on some many levels.
    So, we spent the better part of the day on the ground floor at the COBO Center attending the NAIAS. We are back here at the MGM Grand in Detroit, and what we took away from today was all the buzz surrounding the freshly-debuted Ford GT and 2017 F-150 Raptor, and unsurprisingly, much of that buzz is in regards to the lack of a V8 in these two high profile Ford vehicles.
    The lack of a V8 is concerning, especially when discussing such a high profile halo car as the new Ford GT. After all, the entire history of this car revolves around it’s V8 powerplant. Some would argue that it’s the heart and soul of the Ford GT/GT40 legacy, and we would agree.
    Regardless, when Ford finally debuted the next-gen Ford GT, powered by a 3.5L Ecoboost V6, our hearts started palpitating. You see, it’s not just the fact that this Ford supercar is powered by a V6 – what is most alarming is that Ford is showing us a very clear picture of the future of their Performance Division.

    Troubled by these horrible thoughts, we were able to have a quick chat with one of the many Ford reps here at the show. You see, if you attend enough Auto Shows, you start to build professional and personal relationships with the same manufacturer representatives over the years. And while our source certainly isn’t the end-all of Ford’s future plans, the information he provided us apparently echoes the larger opinion and direction of the executives at Ford. Our source has also been pretty reliable over the years, specifically in regards to Mustangs. If you aren’t sitting down right now, please take a seat – this news might be hard to take:
    “Ford is definitely phasing out the V8 motor altogether”, he said – word for word. “CAFE and EPA are working very hard discreetly to to make sure of that. There is quite a bit going on at Ford that the public is in the dark about. The impression that I am getting is that Ford wants to continue it’s V8 program, but things have (rather recently) taken a new direction, presumably from CAFE/EPA pressure in mid to late 2013. Ford have invested quite a bit of money into the Coyote program over the years, and even had plans of going DI (Direct Injection). The future development budget for the 5.2L FPC motor has dwindled, and there is talk that this motor may continue it’s life exclusively in the form of sanctioned racing series, not on the street. The next big thing for Ford at this point is weight savings. They are trying to lighten these Mustangs to get high performance numbers out of the Ecoboost, and whether we like it or not, that is the (near) future. It’s not Ford’s fault, and you can thank the Gov’t for this – not the consumer”.

    Our source later went on to explain that “The rebranding/reshuffling of the Ford Performance Division is all a result of this added EPA pressure. Ford wasn’t going to fund a performance program unless it’s primary focus was on the smaller Ecoboost motors, so SVT and Ford Racing were dissolved into this new Performance Division. And unfortunately, it would be foolish to expect to see any new V8 cars coming out of this new Performance Division. Ford Performance is going to be cranking out some very fast cars for some time, but even if the new Shelby GT500 gets the green light, it will likely be the last gasoline Ford V8 will ever produce.”
    As anti-progressive as we might sound – we just can’t get on board with the thought of the V8 going extinct. This feels like the nightmare we were always afraid of having, and we can’t wake up. Share your thoughts below.
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    I am skeptical of this article but it could happen I suppose.

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    Saw this on fb earlier.
    I wouldnt be surprised.


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    Wow......I guess you could see it coming.

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    How come GM and Chrysler aren't talking about doing this? If it is a CAFE thing, wouldn't there be talks of them doing this as well. Plus the 5.0 gets almost the same mpg as the ecoboost.

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    Another thing. Would Ford spent all that money on R&D of the new Voodoo motor for only 1 model year?

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    I don't get it. How much mpg does the ecoboost gain over the 5.0 in the F150s? I don't think it's that much and for the mustang if you up the performance in the ecoboost or 5.0 it's going to not have good mpgs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red98GT View Post
    I don't get it. How much mpg does the ecoboost gain over the 5.0 in the F150s? I don't think it's that much and for the mustang if you up the performance in the ecoboost or 5.0 it's going to not have good mpgs.
    I've actually seen the 5.0 get better mileage. That is comparing a 6 to an 8 though. Not the 4.

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    I've been seeing a lot of rumors floating around but I find it hard to believe they would discontinue a V8 model for the Mustang and F-150. The Ecoboost works well, but I always feel there will be a need for a V8 engine. Maybe I'm wrong though. I saw on another site about Ford discontinuing their V8's and putting in LSx engines in their cars. Which I immediately said that had to be posted on a satire website lol.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Red98GT View Post
    I don't get it. How much mpg does the ecoboost gain over the 5.0 in the F150s? I don't think it's that much and for the mustang if you up the performance in the ecoboost or 5.0 it's going to not have good mpgs.
    When I bought my 12 F150 the EB got 1MPG better both city/hwy. 1.
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    I don't see V8's going away any time soon. If Chevy can squeeze upper 20's mpg out of the Vettes then I don't see the problem with CAFE.
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    From the sounds of that article Ford is going to force us to buy their new tech since most of us don't want to pay extra for the 1mpg that it provides. I still can understand the hybrids or ecoboost like setups, by the time you pay for the tech you could have purchased years of fuel in the standard vehicle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RUTHLESS View Post
    From the sounds of that article Ford is going to force us to buy their new tech since most of us don't want to pay extra for the 1mpg that it provides. I still can understand the hybrids or ecoboost like setups, by the time you pay for the tech you could have purchased years of fuel in the standard vehicle.

    Regardless of technology in 8 cylinder or 4 cylinder platforms, you WILL buy the technology but not because the auto manufacturers are "forcing" you to. It is because the liberal, tree-hugging, gov't funded EPA and their complete BS agenda will force you to buy it.

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    The EPA are a bunch of nazis

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    Quote Originally Posted by burntire View Post
    Good! I'm sure Everyone is glad this was a farce.
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    Quote Originally Posted by map351 View Post
    The GN & GNX worked out Ok..
    True but speaking as a two time GN owner they are fast yes, but will never sound like a sweet running V8. Sometimes it's all about presence. Ha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by u1arunit View Post
    True but speaking as a two time GN owner they are fast yes, but will never sound like a sweet running V8. Sometimes it's all about presence. Ha.

    I think he was being sarcastic. That would have sucked getting destroyed by a 6cyl. family car back in 86-87 while in a new vette. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by John4cam View Post
    I think he was being sarcastic. That would have sucked getting destroyed by a 6cyl. family car back in 86-87 while in a new vette. lol
    I remember how many butt hurt hot rod owners there were back then after getting smoked by a family car. Haha
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