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    I can't find anything on a 3082r.... What are the turbine dimensions? That really looks like a 3582hta to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffreyCole View Post
    I can't find anything on a 3082r.... What are the turbine dimensions? That really looks like a 3582hta to me.
    It's a 3082R, not a 3582R. The 3082R is an extremely rare bastard turbo that people either seem to love or hate. It is also from HTA, so you got that part correct.

    Here is the tag number, but even that comes up as a 3076R. I did measure the compressor exducer at 82mm. I did not measure the turbine.

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    "HTA" is just a fancy nomenclature for some extended tip billet goodness.

    If it is really a 30r turbine, you should see full boost well before 5k rpm. I see full boost around 4700 on a 35r sized turbine. Of course, I think the 4g63 head flows a bit better than the focus head, and my cams are quite a bit more aggressive than the specs you listed, so that all affects that stuff. Should be interesting to see the results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffreyCole View Post
    "HTA" is just a fancy nomenclature for some extended tip billet goodness.

    If it is really a 30r turbine, you should see full boost well before 5k rpm. I see full boost around 4700 on a 35r sized turbine. Of course, I think the 4g63 head flows a bit better than the focus head, and my cams are quite a bit more aggressive than the specs you listed, so that all affects that stuff. Should be interesting to see the results.
    Thanks. I'll learn all the nomenclature someday.
    A quick google search looks like the 4g63 head and Duratec Focus head are actually very similar in flow! It's tough to find a base flow for the 2.0 Duratec, but a mild port flows 330cfm at .5" lift. My head has no work done to it and cam lift is just .38".
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    For those interested, ARP does make flywheel bots for the Duratec. This would be the 2.3, or any single-mass flywheel. That means they would be too short for the stock 2.0 flywheel.
    These are FAR better than the junk from Ford. The heads are a beefy 19mm vs the 11mm from Ford that want to strip on every turn.


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    Gah. I finally found it. That's why I didn't recognize it. The 3082R is generally referred to as the GT3040r.

    Its basically a 35r compressor on a 30r turbine. Spools a little slower than a 30r, a little more power than a 30r. Should be good for about 55-56 lbs/min or so. I'd guess spool would be in the 4200 range or so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffreyCole View Post
    Gah. I finally found it. That's why I didn't recognize it. The 3082R is generally referred to as the GT3040r.

    Its basically a 35r compressor on a 30r turbine. Spools a little slower than a 30r, a little more power than a 30r. Should be good for about 55-56 lbs/min or so. I'd guess spool would be in the 4200 range or so.
    The compressor wheel is the same as the GTX3852R, which flows about 72lb/min. Now, granted the smaller turbine will hold it back some, but it's over 55lb/min.
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    Depends on which exhaust housing you have, but I'd say 60 is possible on kill... All depends on how hard your setup let's you push it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffreyCole View Post
    Depends on which exhaust housing you have, but I'd say 60 is possible on kill... All depends on how hard your setup let's you push it.
    I know of a Focus that made 622whp at 32psi and runs 142mph in the 1/4 on this turbo, so I'd say 60 lb/min is definitely there.
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    Looks like this track rental is going to be very interesting :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffreyCole View Post
    Looks like this track rental is going to be very interesting :)
    I won't have the fuel yet for much over 400whp for the rental. I need to sump the tank and go return fuel to really take advantage of this turbo.

    My goal is still 11.9 with the stock fuel pump.
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    '06 Focus. Built. Turbo. WMI. 12.43 @ 115 (sold)
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    that wastegate you got is pure sex! Lookin' awesome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by phillysrt4 View Post
    that wastegate you got is pure sex! Lookin' awesome!
    Thanks man, but that's my bov which sadly nobody will see unless they get under the car. My wastegate is much less sexy. It's a 38mm Tial with a corner ground down for fitment, haha!
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    I have an rfl blow off....it is almost obnoxious, lol


    Just a little 500 whp V6

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowSix View Post
    I have an rfl blow off....it is almost obnoxious, lol
    Lol. My Chinese one was an sqv style, whatever that is. It came with a plastic tri-star piece that made it sound like someone stomped on a mouse between shifts. I took the plastic squeaker out after a week.
    I think the JGS will just sound like a rush of air, which is perfect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sutyak View Post
    Lol. My Chinese one was an sqv style, whatever that is. It came with a plastic tri-star piece that made it sound like someone stomped on a mouse between shifts. I took the plastic squeaker out after a week.
    I think the JGS will just sound like a rush of air, which is perfect.
    mine sounds like you filled a 80 gallon compressor, and hooked up a hose to 100 psi, and then popped the hose out, lol

    you can hear it here, it is much louder in person, and that is over both mine and the audi's exhaust, lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowSix View Post
    mine sounds like you filled a 80 gallon compressor, and hooked up a hose to 100 psi, and then popped the hose out, lol

    you can hear it here, it is much louder in person, and that is over both mine and the audi's exhaust, lol
    Man that is loud!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sutyak View Post
    Man that is loud!
    it has a horn on it, lol

    I probably would have bought a Tial but I got this from a buddy off his subaru for cheap


    Just a little 500 whp V6

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    While waiting on some parts to arrive in the mail I was able to get the H&R setup installed yesterday. I believe about all of the struts and shocks for the Ford Racing suspension were shot and leaking after only 40K miles or so. I think the dampers they paired with the springs were a poor combination. The H&R springs/dampers I bought were used, but still in great shape except for the strut mount bearings, so I swapped in the ones from the other setup. The Steeda rear sway bar is a monster compared to stock. I'm hoping it helps even out the rear, as this car tends to seriously understeer and then "wag" when coming out of a curve hard.
    I believe this is the correct spring rates (lb/in):
    Stock: F 110, R 117
    Ford Racing: F 129, R 157
    H&R: coilover F 370-460, (race) R 375

    I mainly wanted the stiff rear springs to prevent squat on launch at the track. The front coilovers I wanted so I could adjust the height and lessen the rub of the 235 tires.
    The rear sway bar is much heavier than the stock, but the coilovers are lighter aluminum instead of the steel struts as before, so I think the difference is made up. The car will also drop a few pounds losing the cat, and changing from some steel piping to aluminum or plastic.

    Here is another shortcut I took to get the car done sooner than later. I bought a 4" flexible inlet pipe instead of fabricating one. This way the only thing I had to fabricate was a small bracket on the battery tray to hold the air filter in place. The 4" turbo inlet makes for some extremely tight fitment.





    Last edited by sutyak; 05-18-2015 at 09:42 AM.
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    '06 Focus. Built. Turbo. WMI. 12.43 @ 115 (sold)
    '03 Mach 1 : 12.61 @ 106.59 (sold)
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    Quote Originally Posted by sutyak View Post
    Thanks man, but that's my bov which sadly nobody will see unless they get under the car. My wastegate is much less sexy. It's a 38mm Tial with a corner ground down for fitment, haha!
    glad you knew I meant BOV when i said wastegate ;) lol..

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