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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom View Post
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    http://www.hotrod.com/news/1503-arre...ipant-charged/ two people charged with MURDER. One has appeared on street outlaws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffreyCole View Post
    http://www.hotrod.com/news/1503-arre...ipant-charged/ two people charged with MURDER. One has appeared on street outlaws.
    Really... murder charges just for organizing the event? That seems a bit ridiculous
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    Murder definitely seems steep.

    Involuntary Manslaughter, perhaps.

    Gives a new ring to "Murder Nova"?

    Too Soon?
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    Dude killed had a really really nice GTR as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stangman701 View Post
    Really... murder charges just for organizing the event? That seems a bit ridiculous
    I agree seeing that they where there to watch the race and the drivers didn't tell them where to stand.
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    They're just trying to make an example of them. Murder by definition shows intent. Manslaughter is the best they could possibly hope to convict on, but even that is a stretch, as the people weren't innocent bystanders as ruthless said.

    It only makes it worse that he has appeared on the TV show as now he appears to be a well..... "Outlaw", or someone with no regard for the law.

    And 2 million dollars for bail is absurd. Come the **** on. Its not like they came out with a bazooka and shot someone. It was an accident. Albeit reckless and negligent behavior led to the accident, it doesn't make them a murderer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffreyCole View Post
    They're just trying to make an example of them. Murder by definition shows intent. Manslaughter is the best they could possibly hope to convict on, but even that is a stretch, as the people weren't innocent bystanders as ruthless said.

    It only makes it worse that he has appeared on the TV show as now he appears to be a well..... "Outlaw", or someone with no regard for the law.

    And 2 million dollars for bail is absurd. Come the **** on. Its not like they came out with a bazooka and shot someone. It was an accident. Albeit reckless and negligent behavior led to the accident, it doesn't make them a murderer.
    While I 100% agree with you, from what I've read, intent is implied because they were engaging in a reckless activity. Apparently, similar situations have occurred in the past and both drivers were convicted of murder. While the situations were similar in the fact that there were two drivers and only one of them actually wrecked and caused a death, they are still different in that the person killed was not at all involved with the racing. I think that differentiates this particular example enough that I'm unsure of what is going to happen.

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    Jesus...then why isn't every person who mows down people why texting convicted of murder??

    The whole thing is so sad...but I don't agree with what they're doing, which is making an example of these guys. Similar to what happened to Plaxico...who really got screwed...and he only hurt himself...
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    Yea the murder charge is bullshit for sure. It is a terrible accident but those people were there and watching on their own, no one forced them to go and be a part of something like that.

    street outlaws will soon be off the air.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by zxgto06 View Post
    street outlaws will soon be off the air.....
    Highly unlikely. The show probably makes discovery millions in ad revenue plus public appearances and such.

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    Great post in this thread:

    http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/sh...6560&page=1545


    I view it as a telling sign that none of the SO guys have posted since these street racing deaths occurred.

    I suspect the Discovery channel has asked them to not make any public comments until they have had a chance to digest the fallout from this situation.

    I think it will force a significant change in the future of the show.

    Its possible that the DC may request changes in the direction of the show that aren't acceptable to the SO guys.

    In this case the show will stop and the SO guys will go back to doing their street racing as an underground activity, and this would suck.

    There is another possible scenario that I hope they are seriously considering though.

    As a network TV show the current approach will no longer work.

    It was a ticking time bomb anyway, the cars are now so ridiculously fast that eventually one of the participants was going to hit a telephone pole or something else on the closed sets and get seriously injured or die.

    This would have killed off the show also, particularly given the family portrayals of the SO racers, most are married, many have kids, they have tons of fans now and having one of them get killed while involved in the show would have been even worse for the show and the other SO racers than what happened in LA.

    But the SO guys now have a unique opportunity.

    They are already exceeding the TV ratings of the other main competing drag racing organization by a factor of 4.

    If you look at ratio of TV advertising revenue being generated by SO versus the NHRA the ratio is even higher since the NHRA is in the sad position of paying for their broadcasts.

    If the SO guys were to come to an agreement with the DC to begin filming their shows at tracks with paid spectators I believe they could even exceed the NHRA spectator counts, particularly with younger fans that are most important to sponsors and advertisers.

    This activity could be promoted as "a move to make street racing safe again" which trumps the NHRA in another key area.

    This is the main purpose of the NHRA that supposedly justifies their non-profit status but they are doing a very poor job at it.

    Using tracks isn't really much different than what's being done now with the closed sets anyway, it just would be much safer for the participants.

    It also has the big advantage of turning around this huge issue of promoting dangerous and illegal activity that the current show is now facing with these recent deaths.

    Now instead of a liability it becomes a big plus, the Street Outlaws would be leading the effort to have street style racing done a safe manner where nobody gets hurt and nobody goes to jail.

    The racing could be done with no-prep or even "un-prep" to get pretty close to actual street conditions.

    There are a lot of other potential benefits to the approach.

    The revenues from the paid spectators would provide the funds for a team of the SO racers to make a scheduled and promoted tour to tracks across the country, racing the best local racers at each track.

    There would be a lot more participants than currently are willing to race against the SO guys, particularly if the list was split into a small tire and big tire list, the competition would be hot and heavy.

    Local competitors that do well against the touring SO guys could be given a chance to earn a SO tour spot, similar to what was done on the basketball "And One" show, this added a lot of interest to the show.

    In addition to coming to dragstrips across the country there could also be some special "Back to the Streets" events where as with the Indy and F1 cars do now, temporary 1/8 mile tracks are setup on city streets, with temporary spectator stands.

    Since 1/8 mile tracks are pretty small compared to Indy car and F1 tracks this isn't crazy to think about.

    It goes along the with the push to make street racing safe again so likely some cities with street racing problems would get behind it and sign up for these "back to the streets" races.

    I'm a big fan of the show and don't want it to die and I think doing something similar to above would not only keep the show alive but make it even more successful.

    A large success with this approach could also potentially give this SO related organization more influence on determining the future direction of drag racing than the NHRA, which would be a real positive.
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    That post is really interesting, but I don't see it panning out like that at all.


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    Street outlaws at the fld's

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