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    $15 an hr for fast food workers

    Is anyone on here following the news and have anything to say about what is going on. Has the world gone crazy to turn a job into a career for people that have made poor decisions or is this something that needs to be done?
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    I've said from the beginning this is a bad idea. Is this for all minimum wage workers?

    If so.......my payroll costs will go out of sight.....staff will disappear, services will be cut, bene's will be cut..........
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    How else can these folks afford Obamacare?
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    So, because you decided to start a family in the 9th grade, now I have to pay $8.00 just for a Big Mac and the price of a #5 supersize will probably be $14.50 to cover all their costs. so, as soon as this happens everyone will figure out they can buy real food at a real restaurant with real waitresses for less than what they pay for the same shitty food and shitty service at MacF*ckYous. then, they will all go out of business and that will be my fault somehow because I paid for school loans until I was 30.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troll View Post
    So, because you decided to start a family in the 9th grade, now I have to pay $8.00 just for a Big Mac and the price of a #5 supersize will probably be $14.50 to cover all their costs. so, as soon as this happens everyone will figure out they can buy real food at a real restaurant with real waitresses for less than what they pay for the same shitty food and shitty service at MacF*ckYous.
    You must not have ate there for awhile. I stopped at Wendys and a large size for a double cheeeseburger was nearly $11, before the pay increase. Talk about ripping people off, what do you think that large $1.50 fountain drink cost the fastfood empires? Maybe .15 cents. My problem is this, wallyworld is one of the largest u.s employers, the waltons are 6 of the top ten wealthiest people in the u.s. They're making billions while paying their employees 8$/hr. Those same employees require gov funding that I pay out of my taxes. They in turn, shop with said funding at, you guessed it, walmart. So why not force walmart to pay their employees more so that maybe they might not have to get funded by my pocket and instead by the waltons...They may raise prices putting all the employees in the same situation again, but whats the alternative? Taxpayers subsidizing them? Not everyone decided to start at family in 9th grade, some people are forced to work there because of downsizing, their college career collasped or get this, walmart moved to town and put their mom and pop store out of business because of their cheap prices using slave labor......


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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverhatch View Post
    So why not force walmart to pay their employees more
    Who do you want to "force" Walmart to pay more? The government? Like Stangman said, that's called communism. I don't even have the time or patience to pick the rest of your post apart. It's so illogical and twisted up, not even funny. I assume you work at walmart ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troll View Post
    Who do you want to "force" Walmart to pay more? The government? Like Stangman said, that's called communism. I don't even have the time or patience to pick the rest of your post apart. It's so illogical and twisted up, not even funny. I assume you work at walmart ???
    How do you solve the problem then mr logical and funny? walmart employs thousands at minimum wage, those said thousands get gov assist because of the low pay and buy things at walmart. Possibly raise the minimum wage on companies that employ "x" amount of people? Maybe try giving a solution instead of smartass remarks?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverhatch View Post
    How do you solve the problem then mr logical and funny? walmart employs thousands at minimum wage, those said thousands get gov assist because of the low pay and buy things at walmart. Possibly raise the minimum wage on companies that employ "x" amount of people? Maybe try giving a solution instead of smartass remarks?
    Well, personally, I don't think there is a problem. The OP thinks the problem is paying $15/hr for minimum wage. I agree with him. YOU obviously think there is a problem. YOU and a bunch of uneducated, hippie, lazy f*cktards that have all day to picket businesses holding pieces of cardboard with misspelled words. If it wasn't for walmart and every other company paying minimum wage to somebody willing to take it than we would be paying 100% of their gov't assistance. Instead, they do have a job and we're only paying a portion of it. That's OK. Like somebody already stated, walmart and other minimum wage jobs are just that and they require minimum effort and minimum thought. They aren't meant to be turned into a career. (to get off on a tangent, if we paid the regular workers 15/hr, how much would management make? 20-25 per hour? You'd be stealing people from actual good-paying industries to manage your walmart. haha) So, I worked 4 crap jobs when I was in high school and college. Got out of college and got a job in a decent industry and been working my way up through the ranks for 22 years (and paid back my school loans --- I suppose YOU support the govt's plan to eliminate that, too???) Don't even call me LUCKY. Yes, maybe lucky that I picked an industry that's still in this area. Never lucky that I worked up to 70 hours per week most of my twenties and now usually 50 hours per week and I don't think that's a lot. If you work at walmart or any of these other jobs, you go to school part-time, you go to a trade school, etc. and you move on. Period. There is no problem here that needs a solution.

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    McDonalds and most of the usual fast food chains are hurting bad right now. This would be the nail in the coffin. Way to go America.
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    Quote Originally Posted by u1arunit View Post
    McDonalds and most of the usual fast food chains are hurting bad right now. This would be the nail in the coffin. Way to go America.
    Because nothing says america like Mcdonalds, Wendys and kfc. Good riddence.


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    I did some number crunching and I hope the people fighting for the $15 did the same. However I am going to bet some didn't and when it comes tax time they are going to be just a little upset if they get pushed up a bracket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RUTHLESS View Post
    I did some number crunching and I hope the people fighting for the $15 did the same. However I am going to bet some didn't and when it comes tax time they are going to be just a little upset if they get pushed up a bracket.
    Not only that, they are going to be asking for Less Hours after they get the bump or they will lose the Government housing and other freebies after they are making too much. It's already happened in other places that have the increased wages. We keep catering to the low lifes here in America it will be all that we have. So very sad....
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    Quote Originally Posted by RUTHLESS View Post
    I did some number crunching and I hope the people fighting for the $15 did the same. However I am going to bet some didn't and when it comes tax time they are going to be just a little upset if they get pushed up a bracket.
    Even if they get pushed up a bracket, you don't pay that higher amount on your total wages, just the amount that is over the threshold. You can't lose money by making more (in general).

    As far as the minimum wage, I could be on board with an increase, but why jump all the way to $15/hr?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff95TA View Post
    As far as the minimum wage, I could be on board with an increase, but why jump all the way to $15/hr?
    This is where I'm at. Bumping the minimum wage up some is due. No more than $8, $8.25 absolute tops. $15 is ridiculous, as these are supposed to be part time, entry level jobs, for students, for folks that want to pick up hours to help out their families, etc. A minimum wage job should not be a career. It should be a start to one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by u1arunit View Post
    Not only that, they are going to be asking for Less Hours after they get the bump or they will lose the Government housing and other freebies after they are making too much. It's already happened in other places that have the increased wages. We keep catering to the low lifes here in America it will be all that we have. So very sad....

    Good point!
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    this wasn't actually passed yet, just an FYI. Seattle has been experimenting with it, and NY state has been talking about implementing it.


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    Silverhatch,
    Easy fix...stop going to places like Walmart when you can buy the same items from a mom and pop shop and have a better experience. Sure it might cost a little more but your helping the community. That is how it is working in the small town my wife grew up. Her grandparents own a small appliance store and it is doing good with return customers. GET THIS...There is a Walmart just up the road.
    Same mind set works if you shopping for a garden tractor. (I just did this so its fresh in my mind.) You can go to a Lowes and get a green tractor with JD sticker slapped on it while being built in china, then complain about JD to everyone you see or you can go to a place that sells the real deal and be happy for years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RUTHLESS View Post
    Silverhatch,
    Easy fix...stop going to places like Walmart when you can buy the same items from a mom and pop shop and have a better experience. Sure it might cost a little more but your helping the community. That is how it is working in the small town my wife grew up. Her grandparents own a small appliance store and it is doing good with return customers. GET THIS...There is a Walmart just up the road.
    Same mind set works if you shopping for a garden tractor. (I just did this so its fresh in my mind.) You can go to a Lowes and get a green tractor with JD sticker slapped on it while being built in china, then complain about JD to everyone you see or you can go to a place that sells the real deal and be happy for years.

    The he tractor scenario isn't completely true.....the JD mower sold at lowes is now the EXACT same one you get at the JD dealership. We have Middletown Tractor sales here and they are a large JD dealer. They personally told me and showed me it's the same tractor at Lowes...down to the part number and model number. MTS here is even setting them up for the local Lowes. All JD on display at lowes has a sticker on them stating this and provides info for service at MTS. Didn't used to be this way but times have changed
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    Quote Originally Posted by no1sirbutler View Post
    The he tractor scenario isn't completely true.....the JD mower sold at lowes is now the EXACT same one you get at the JD dealership. We have Middletown Tractor sales here and they are a large JD dealer. They personally told me and showed me it's the same tractor at Lowes...down to the part number and model number. MTS here is even setting them up for the local Lowes. All JD on display at lowes has a sticker on them stating this and provides info for service at MTS. Didn't used to be this way but times have changed
    Maybe things changed since last year but I couldn't find a cast iron front axle or a sheet metal deck on anything at Lowes so I was on my way.
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