I never do either, a "decent" monthly payment for me is around $400/month. I don't know anyone that has enough equity in their car to trade it in and have a decent car payment on a $25k car financed at 3 years.
If you must know my business, my Miata is paid for and should be worth about 10K on trade... was going to put another 10K down and finance about 15K for 36 mos (@ 0%) = 416 / month.
I do not drive the Miata that sits in my garage now. I am not convinced that I need to shell out 10K cash and another 15K over the next three years to have a brand new Mustang sitting in my garage in the spot that the Miata sits now. :capeche?:
2019 Colorado ZR2
No one asked your business, I think the responses were just due to you calling 80% of the forum dumb. Buy it cash if you want, you are paying for it either way.
Really don't understand where all the hate comes in regards to financing. I can have 20k sitting in investments making money for me, or I can pull it out and put it down on a depreciating "asset". I'll take the nearly free money. Both truck and car are financed at like 2 and 3%, seems silly to me not to use that to my advantage.
2014 Mustang GT Stock and for sale
2014 M235i (wife's)
1964 Ford F-100
Both of you make sense. Right or wrong, I think it comes down to how big of a monthly payment people are comfortable with. Sure, you can use the free / nearly free money Ford is lending you, but then you are facing 3-5 years of $600-$800 a month. If you are disciplined and have that much available cash flow for a monthly payment then you will do well. If it is easier for you to put a chunk down ( cash or trade or both ) so your monthly payment won't keep you up at night then that's fine too. Like was said - you are paying for it either way.
2014 GT Premium - Sterling Gray Metallic - MT82 - Track Pack - Glass Roof - Recaro seats - Spoiler delete
12.76 @ 114.04 bone stock. Koni yellow coil-overs, BMR watts, LCA and LCA relo brackets, Borla S-type axle back.
1966 Coupe - 331 stroker - Bullet custom roller cam - cam and motor installed and dyno tuned by Rodeheavers Hot Rod - Astro A5 - McLeod RXT - 486 to the wheels - more fun than my little tires can handle
1966 Oldsmobile Toronado - currently NOT on jackstands
You should never put yourself in a situation where you are upside down... free (or next to free) money or not. Say you finance 30,000K at 0% for 84 months and you (God forbid) crash it the very next day. That car is worth 25,000 the moment you drive it off the lot. Your insurance company might pay you 25,000... probably more like 75-80% of 25,000. Now, you are 10,000 in the hole on your 100% financed (for free) car.
2019 Colorado ZR2
2014 Mustang GT Stock and for sale
2014 M235i (wife's)
1964 Ford F-100
$30K - $5K - (80% of $25K) = $20K so $10K difference.
Anyway I think you are both much closer in point than you think, and it's not worth arguing who's method of buying a car is the best. The point is not to buy what you can't afford, meaning as long as you have the cash in the bank to cover the cost of the car it doesn't really matter whether you buy 100% up front of play the "game" of 0% financing while making 1.05%/yr in your savings.
I also play the credit game; charging when I get some % back, then immediately pay off the balance. When it comes to a car, I feel much better having that title in my hand rather than make maybe $200 in interest over a few years while paying off the car.
At the end of the day just remember these are toys and don't get yourself neck-deep in debt! (not directed at mark or troll etc.) Put that mod-money towards extra payments.
mark
'04 Mach 1. Built. Turbo. 667whp/631wtq
'06 Focus. Built. Turbo. WMI. 12.43 @ 115 (sold)
'03 Mach 1 : 12.61 @ 106.59 (sold)
he's into that, that spiritual stuff. <><
Agreed! I started this original thread and re-upped it the other day to sing the praises of Ford offering 0% financing. That's all.
If you are not happy with Ford offering 0% financing or you are upset that you did not receive 0% financing when you bought your vehicle, then move along.
:happy:
2019 Colorado ZR2
2014 Mustang GT Stock and for sale
2014 M235i (wife's)
1964 Ford F-100
Beater cars and no payments FTW
Dan -- 2003 Cobra DSG Coupe #6009
If it looks good, you'll see it. If it sounds good, you'll hear it. If it's marketed right, you'll buy it. But if it's real, you'll feel it. IG: @donuttrump
The best way to buy a car is to have an investment that pays enough interest to cover the loan payments, that way you never have a loss. This way you make your assets work for you without losing value.
If you put $100k at 5% interest, you would make about $400 a month from it, get a 72 month 0% interest loan and you could buy a mustang for $400 a month.
That makes it seem kind of dumb to give up 50% of your $100k to buy the car up front doesnt it?
Last edited by Tom; 04-07-2016 at 11:58 AM.
1987 Fiero GT
Precision 6466, L67, 4T80e, MS3Pro
I want to know where you have a single-sourced 5% guaranteed RIO, after tax. An investment reliable enough to actually do this, with no market volatility. What single investment are you willing to put $100K into and remove $400/mo from with no dips?
Also, assuming your are able to make a constant 5%/yr for 6 years, if you take out that $400/mo you're missing out on an additional $4K interest. I suppose $4K is better than $30K, but I'd still like to see this investment you speak of.
Last edited by sutyak; 04-07-2016 at 01:23 PM.
mark
'04 Mach 1. Built. Turbo. 667whp/631wtq
'06 Focus. Built. Turbo. WMI. 12.43 @ 115 (sold)
'03 Mach 1 : 12.61 @ 106.59 (sold)
he's into that, that spiritual stuff. <><
2015 Charger Hellcat
2.4" upper pulley, ID1300 injectors, BAP, E85 tune, Cat Delete Pipes, One Piece Drive Shaft, Diff Brace, 305/35/20 555R's for the street and 305/45/18 MT ET Street R's for the track. 9.97@142 Best ET
85 GT
Heads and Cam plus other bolt ons
73 F250
Lifted, 35's, 460 4spd
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Large cap stock funds average 5+% over 5 years.
I didn't mean to literally pull $400 out of your investment every month, it balances out at the end.
1987 Fiero GT
Precision 6466, L67, 4T80e, MS3Pro
Or drive a car that is paid off and let that interest compound.
Dan -- 2003 Cobra DSG Coupe #6009
If it looks good, you'll see it. If it sounds good, you'll hear it. If it's marketed right, you'll buy it. But if it's real, you'll feel it. IG: @donuttrump
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