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    Project Silver Bullet

    After many months of downtime this S197 is in need of a major driveline upgrade. After much deliberation the decision was made to retire the MT-82 in lieu of transmission sourced from G-Force transmission. That was the easy part in a sense. Enter the G-101A. This was the first option. This transmission is a 4 speed and is legal in the NMRA Coyote Stock class.. Which made sense, at first. But after coming to terms with the amount of time required to attend the races let alone being competitive within that class another direction seemed more appealing. The G-Force 5R. This is a 5 speed trans with 5th being 1:1. After consulting with G-Force the gear ratios were selected for 1-4 gears while taking some factors into consideration including ring and pinion ratio, vehicle weight, whp and the characteristics of the engine rpm band. There are some specifics the customer can option as far as input shaft spline count, shifter set back and internal modifications which reduce parasitic losses. The option to execute the shifts clutchless is also an option. That box got a checkmark.

    Now clutch selection was next on the agenda. Spec got the call. A coyote stock set up seemed like the way to go. An aluminum pressure plate is an option that will free up some rotating weight in the driveline. A QuickTime bell housing will mate the block and trans.

    The installation is being handled by Booze Brothers Racing out of Marion PA. Two factors determined that choice. They have a very competitive Coyote Stock car. And their reputation within the NMRA. I was in search for a clean installation and the knowledge to make the best decisions for what was in front of them. This is the first time I farmed out work and let somebody other than a friend and I spin the wrenches. Which is necessary because of the amount of time I invest in work.

    Here are some pics of what's going on with it:
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    Last edited by Pure Stock; 09-09-2018 at 01:03 AM.
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    Wow, I bet that thing will launch way up there at 2600 rpm ��������

    looking good Joe, can’t wait to see what it does.
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    Can’t wait to see you and the bullet back on the track!
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    love this thread.

    looks like a 69 fastback in the background.
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    Quote Originally Posted by somethingclever View Post
    love this thread.

    looks like a 69 fastback in the background.
    All kinds of neat stuff in there. I believe that fox on the lift has been sub 8 sec. All motor.

    Quote Originally Posted by PaxtonShelby View Post
    Can’t wait to see you and the bullet back on the track!
    Ahh it's been too long Ron. Hopefully it will be ready for some track time in the next month.

    Quote Originally Posted by Martin0660 View Post
    Wow, I bet that thing will launch way up there at 2600 rpm ��������

    looking good Joe, can’t wait to see what it does.
    2,600 seems kinda high. I may consult with yeahloh 95
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    You know the answer, turn it up until the fence shakes
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    i can help joe with the 2 step settings
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    Quote Originally Posted by yeahloh95 View Post
    i can help joe with the 2 step settings
    Got some struts and springs coming your way!
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    cant wait to try them out
    Troy
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    Have a set of lightened and REM'd 4.10 ring and pinion that will be for sale here shortly.
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    oh i will need those also
    Troy
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    Are these parts going on the wall or on the list after the two step installation? Fall air is coming, we need to get all three out as Mason again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin0660 View Post
    Are these parts going on the wall or on the list after the two step installation? Fall air is coming, we need to get all three out as Mason again.
    Lol

    I'm game
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    I am ready for a trip to mason also , parts will be on soon now that I am back from mustang week
    Troy
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    Quote Originally Posted by yeahloh95 View Post
    i can help joe with the 2 step settings
    It's easy. Start at 6400 and go up from there
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ares View Post
    It's easy. Start at 600 and go up from there
    fixed it for Troy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin0660 View Post
    fixed it for Troy
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    Got some pics today of the current state of the work. Clearancing for the linkage rods required some trimming of the trans tunnel. A filler panel that creates the necessary room was fabricated.

    A fabricated driveshaft loop found its way under the s197 chassis. Next on the list. Measuring for a carbon fiber driveshaft. Removing the 4.10 ring and pinion in favor of a 5.13/5.14 gear. And converting the hydraulic actuation of the pressure plate to a cable actuated set up.
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