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    Quote Originally Posted by luxurysportscar View Post
    On my '95 non-smog, TF heads, ported cobra, B3 cam, stock block, 1 5/8 Lt killed my lowend until the blower was added. Made alot of noise though.
    Did ya ever think runnin' a healthy blower cam without the blower in a heavy ass vert could have deteriorated the bottom end?? Now, I could see if the primary diameter was severly mis-matched, but 1 5/8", c'mon. Something else was off somewhere else and I'm gonna have to disagree that a 1 5/8" longtube killed the low end.
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    I agree, long tubes are the way to go!

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    What long tubes can be ran on that or foxes without having to mess with steering shafts?????
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    Quote Originally Posted by coralcoupe1993 View Post
    What long tubes can be ran on that or foxes without having to mess with steering shafts?????
    MAC 1 5/8" L.T. worked on my fox without steering shaft removal/mods. It's a whole different ball game when you have a Lakewood scattershield though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pure Stock View Post
    MAC 1 5/8" L.T. worked on my fox without steering shaft removal/mods. It's a whole different ball game when you have a Lakewood scattershield though.

    Thats something I forgot to mention I have a Tremec with a Lakewould Blow Proof bellhousing and Lakewood scattershield. Will this keep me from running long tubes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 955.0 View Post
    Thats something I forgot to mention I have a Tremec with a Lakewould Blow Proof bellhousing and Lakewood scattershield. Will this keep me from running long tubes?
    Not sure about the spacing/clearance with the primaries on the SN-95's. With the fox body and the MAC 1 5/8" headers (manual trans headers) some grinding was required on my application where the scattershield bumps out to accomodate the starter mounting point. Used a 4 1/2" grinder to alleviate interference. It's nothing to be intimidated by though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pure Stock View Post
    Not sure about the spacing/clearance with the primaries on the SN-95's. With the fox body and the MAC 1 5/8" headers (manual trans headers) some grinding was required on my application where the scattershield bumps out to accomodate the starter mounting point. Used a 4 1/2" grinder to alleviate interference. It's nothing to be intimidated by though.
    When I put the tranny and all in, I had to grind a little out In the starter bump to get my Mid pipe to clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pure Stock View Post
    Did ya ever think runnin' a healthy blower cam without the blower in a heavy ass vert could have deteriorated the bottom end?? Now, I could see if the primary diameter was severly mis-matched, but 1 5/8", c'mon. Something else was off somewhere else and I'm gonna have to disagree that a 1 5/8" longtube killed the low end.
    I say go for the LTs with an all stock bottom end. Hell, run dumps right after them, that has to flow more right? Horsepower would be way up, who needs torque anyway. Maybe you can give us your total layout so we can all run 10.70 on a HCI combo with a untouched 302 block. I can also sell you the Charleroi/ Monessen bridge and then maybe make it a toll bridge, its going cheap!


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    Quote Originally Posted by luxurysportscar View Post
    I say go for the LTs with an all stock bottom end. Hell, run dumps right after them, that has to flow more right? Horsepower would be way up, who needs torque anyway. Maybe you can give us your total layout so we can all run 10.70 on a HCI combo with a untouched 302 block. I can also sell you the Charleroi/ Monessen bridge and then maybe make it a toll bridge, its going cheap!
    Yo the spreading of MIS-information is a capital crime on some Ford sites. In your case you'd be doing 2 life sentences with the bullshit your shoutin'. Get some credability, then talk some shit to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pure Stock View Post
    Yo the spreading of MIS-information is a capital crime on some Ford sites. In your case you'd be doing 2 life sentences with the bullshit your shoutin'. Get some credability, then talk some shit to me.


    Im gonna have to jump in here and agree w/ Joe. This info is NOT true!!!
    Dont spread internet B.S. Only state what you have 1st. hand experience with!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pure Stock View Post
    Yo the spreading of MIS-information is a capital crime on some Ford sites. In your case you'd be doing 2 life sentences with the bullshit your shoutin'. Get some credability, then talk some shit to me.
    I have no problem with someone disagreeing with what I had posted. In my case I know that the car performed worse after longtubes were added to the mix. Case closed. The car definately felt slower on the bottom end after. No, I didn't dyno the car after every mod. What I disliked was the "attitude" in which you disagreed. Being that you didn't ride in the car on a before ride, you have no "information" on how it felt prior. If anyone noticed it didn't get ugly until the second post you made about mine bustin' on my own experience, after I simply stated what was done to the car. Maybe you were havin' a bad day, or just chalk it up to your regular sarcasticness towards me here and offline. I guess were not as good of friends as I once thought. This is not the place to air these stupid quirks on Lou's site. 955, I apologize that this thread went to this extent.


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    Sooooo...... Should I put long tubes on the notch?
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    Quote Originally Posted by coralcoupe1993 View Post
    Sooooo...... Should I put long tubes on the notch?

    Hell yeah!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by wick View Post
    Hell yeah!!!!!!!
    I know.... Soon. lol. $$$$$$
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    Quote Originally Posted by luxurysportscar View Post
    I have no problem with someone disagreeing with what I had posted. In my case I know that the car performed worse after longtubes were added to the mix. Case closed. The car definately felt slower on the bottom end after. No, I didn't dyno the car after every mod. What I disliked was the "attitude" in which you disagreed. Being that you didn't ride in the car on a before ride, you have no "information" on how it felt prior. If anyone noticed it didn't get ugly until the second post you made about mine bustin' on my own experience, after I simply stated what was done to the car. Maybe you were havin' a bad day, or just chalk it up to your regular sarcasticness towards me here and offline. I guess were not as good of friends as I once thought. This is not the place to air these stupid quirks on Lou's site. 955, I apologize that this thread went to this extent.


    I was actually having a great day. Your non-documented information has absolutely no validity behind it. Numerous people chimed in providing accurate information that was completely opposite to your claim. A long tube header that is matched accordingly to the rest of the combo will not deteriorate the bottom end. In fact, the complete opposite is true. And I agree this is not the place to air stupid quirks, so stop misleading people with inacurate information.
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    Quote Originally Posted by luxurysportscar View Post
    I say go for the LTs with an all stock bottom end. Hell, run dumps right after them, that has to flow more right? Horsepower would be way up, who needs torque anyway. Maybe you can give us your total layout so we can all run 10.70 on a HCI combo with a untouched 302 block. I can also sell you the Charleroi/ Monessen bridge and then maybe make it a toll bridge, its going cheap!
    Well, that's pretty cute. Your gonna sell me a bridge. Are you implying I'm some kind of dumbass??? I don't need to share a gat dayum thing about my combo. I provided this gentleman with some factual information about exhaust characteristics. Our statements were opposite. So my disagreement with your *opinion* grants you the right to make slight of what I accomplished.?.? No skin off my back though. I do not frequent these forums to boast about what I have done, on the contrary, I try to provide people with insight from what I have gathered through testing and what I have discovered through research (read: objective testing.) I could give a rat's ass if someone disagrees with my opinion or if they subscribe to what I have/will state. Bottom line is factual data will always prevail over seat of the pants thrill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pure Stock View Post
    Well, that's pretty cute. Your gonna sell me a bridge. Are you implying I'm some kind of dumbass??? I don't need to share a gat dayum thing about my combo. I provided this gentleman with some factual information about exhaust characteristics. Our statements were opposite. So my disagreement with your *opinion* grants you the right to make slight of what I accomplished.?.? No skin off my back though. I do not frequent these forums to boast about what I have done, on the contrary, I try to provide people with insight from what I have gathered through testing and what I have discovered through research (read: objective testing.) I could give a rat's ass if someone disagrees with my opinion or if they subscribe to what I have/will state. Bottom line is factual data will always prevail over seat of the pants thrill.
    well said

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    Great thread! Passion about power!
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    Quote Originally Posted by One Sweet Day View Post
    well said

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