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    Speed density/cam

    I'm not really sure what to do. My 87 is speed density, of corse. I want to put in either the "E" or "F" cam but being speed density i'm not sure if it will still want to idle (due to the loss of vacuum). If anyone could give me some advice on the subject it would help alot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LXguy88 View Post
    I'm not really sure what to do. My 87 is speed density, of corse. I want to put in either the "E" or "F" cam but being speed density i'm not sure if it will still want to idle (due to the loss of vacuum). If anyone could give me some advice on the subject it would help alot.
    it is not do to lack of vacuum the computer can't read fast as a mass air car so it will not keep up untill wot (when it goes open loop)

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    I know someone with a SD car with a B cam and the car is an absolute animal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragtop86 View Post
    it is not do to lack of vacuum the computer can't read fast as a mass air car so it will not keep up untill wot (when it goes open loop)
    I have to disagree on this, it's not speed of the ecu or the sensor. A mass-air car uses the airflow mass measured to calculate the load. A speed-density car only uses the MAP (manifold absolute pressure) sensor to calculate load. My car uses a map only on a standalone computer (AEM) as does Mikeymustang's car. So, I think Mikey's car (700+Rep) dispells that internet myth. It idles close to stock & has run mid-9's after driving to the track.

    I would run something other than a E or F cam unless it free. The small comp Xe cam maybe or the small crower cam. The small crower cam is widely accepted as a good speed density cam. A chip could solve some of the aftermarket cam issues in speed density. If you're on a budget, scan the classifieds forum for a cam. I know there's some listed there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mlowry1260 View Post
    I have to disagree on this, it's not speed of the ecu or the sensor. A mass-air car uses the airflow mass measured to calculate the load. A speed-density car only uses the MAP (manifold absolute pressure) sensor to calculate load. My car uses a map only on a standalone computer (AEM) as does Mikeymustang's car. So, I think Mikey's car (700+Rep) dispells that internet myth. It idles close to stock & has run mid-9's after driving to the track.

    I would run something other than a E or F cam unless it free. The small comp Xe cam maybe or the small crower cam. The small crower cam is widely accepted as a good speed density cam. A chip could solve some of the aftermarket cam issues in speed density. If you're on a budget, scan the classifieds forum for a cam. I know there's some listed there.



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    Quote Originally Posted by 351SVT View Post
    I know where there is an AEM that was *supposed* to be in a 1993 Electric Red clearcoat metallic LX hatch. Maybe we can retro-fit it into ole' Casper and shoot for bottom 13's with a little bigger cam and that 2,800 convertor and...........
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    I'm in the same situation that you are: maybee this will help:
    http://www.mustangforums.com/m_21700...tm.htm#2170036
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    I ended up switching to mass air and running the trick flow stage 2 cam
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    Quote Originally Posted by LXguy88 View Post
    I ended up switching to mass air and running the trick flow stage 2 cam
    How did the mass air conversion go? My friend just switched to megasquirt in his 91, and I cold probably score his stocker cheap. Looking at buying a harness off the net. I'd wait untill i do heads and cam though. His car is an automatic and mine has the T5 so I'm not sure if it will work.
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    it was pretty easy. I just went plug by plug so it wasn't overwelming. The hardest part was getting the old pcm plug out of the firewall.
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