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    What do you think 1250rwhp 3v

    Went out to the Ox Roast car show tonight at the Trumbull County(OH) Fairgrounds. We were walking around and came across this display with two 05-07 mustang gt's sitting up front. Turns out they were on display for a local mustang shop that just opened up in Warren. Hadn't heard of them until tonight. Considering they are just 15 minutes from me I figured I would check out the cars and ask some questions to get a feel for them. Anyway one of the cars had a nice looking twin turbo setup on it. Starting talking to one of the guys that appeared to be one of the owners. He starts telling me about the "twin turbo supercharger setup on the car". Tells me that they are "twin exhaust driven superchargers" and the car made 1250rwhp on the dyno. Needless to say I was a bit skeptical so I asked where it was tuned and dynoed. He told me they had taken it to fla to have it tuned and dynoed. After more questions he tells me that steeda dynoed the car. In the meantime I hear someone else ask on of the other guys there what was done to the motor. He tells him the motor is completely stock. Now I know the 05-08 cars have a stronger bottom end than the old 2v cars but I can't see it holding together at 1250rwhp. I may be wrong, but I also find it extremely hard to believe that a stock motor(stock heads and cams) made that much power with just the twin turbo's. I have to call BS, but what do you guys think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Troll View Post
    I'm thinking 700-800 max depending on the turbo size, injectors, tune and full exhaust. I still don't see the stock intake manifold and stock cams/heads supporting that much. Did they have a dyno sheet?
    One of the guys mentioned they have a dyno sheet but didn't bring it with them.
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    Its complete BS. That is all.

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    sooooo I'm thinking about installing a turbo on the Mustang...........






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    the guy is full of beans when I had my 05 I was in talks with powerhouse and gettin a turbo setup. they said bottom ends will hold about to 500 hp then after that your gonna be blowin shit up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5k#Eaton View Post
    the guy is full of beans when I had my 05 I was in talks with powerhouse and gettin a turbo setup. they said bottom ends will hold about to 500 hp then after that your gonna be blowin shit up.
    yea, that's what i have seen pretty much as the standard on the 3v's. Seems that 500-550 would be the limit with the stock bottom end. I'm sure you could temporarily push it a little further but not double and then some. Plus there is no way they could possibly do it with stock heads and cams.
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    Past Toys: 1964 Falcon Vert, 1966 Mustang(owned twice), 1978 Mustang II(first car), 1981 Cobra, 1982 Mustang GT T-Top, 1986 Mustang GT, 1986 Mustang GT Vert, 1987 Mustang GT, 1989 Mustang Notch, 2003 Mustang GT Roush Clone, 2006 Mustang V6(Stainless Works LT's, MBRP cat back, 3.73's, tb, cai), and my favorite 2002 Mustang GT MPH 302 stroker, KB 2.2, TKO 500 640rwhp/591torque.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SV1000s View Post
    sooooo I'm thinking about installing a turbo on the Mustang...........



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    lol...I swapped Colin some 4.10's for a "small" turbo




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    Quote Originally Posted by SV1000s View Post
    lol...I swapped Colin some 4.10's for a "small" turbo

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    no no no, I am saving my turbo(s) for Eds Vert. Ed, did it sell yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by coralcoupe1993 View Post
    no no no, I am saving my turbo(s) for Eds Vert. Ed, did it sell yet?
    Auction ends Thursday night. 1 bid might be all it takes since there's no reserve. All it takes is the starting bid to drive off in it.

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    608 views!! I hope there are a bunch of people that have the car on their "watch list". Good Luck




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    this is totally possible, and very easy to keep together when you trailer them in :)
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    The 3v shortblock is cast also. What bs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 02pnygt View Post
    Went out to the Ox Roast car show tonight at the Trumbull County(OH) Fairgrounds. We were walking around and came across this display with two 05-07 mustang gt's sitting up front. Turns out they were on display for a local mustang shop that just opened up in Warren...one of the cars had a nice looking twin turbo setup on it...[the owner] starts telling me about the "twin turbo supercharger setup on the car". Tells me that they are "twin exhaust driven superchargers" and the car made 1250rwhp on the dyno.
    Wow... what a huge line of bullshit... hope you weren't wearing your sunday best!

    I guess you could call a turbo an "exhaust driven supercharger", especially if you live in the world of all forced induction being a supercharger or variant. But man, way to make the terminology complicated.

    In any event, I'm going to guesstimate 1250rwhp to be 1500hp at the flywheel (assumes 16% drivetrain loss). To get that HP you have to push at least 170lb/min of airflow, or each turbo having to push 85 lbs of air. Thats going to mean twin 102mm turbos at a bare minimum. A typical turbo from Garrett with these characteristics is the GT4202R. Shoving an 84 trim on 2.3 liters of displacement (half of the 4.6 mod motor) means a lot of surge. With the smallest turbine housing having a 1.01 AR, good luck getting 2.3 liters of displacement to spool that below 6000RPM.

    What suprises me is that he is trying to tout his shop with this line of bull. If I were you I wouldnt let him touch your car unless you plan on selling it on ebay using Alanis Morrisette on crack as a model (inside joke about another thread).

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