UAW strike - Legit or BS?

[phillysrt4]

Just curious what people think about the strike. I personally think its BS, but having lived in philly im biased against unions. I watched a greedy union defend lazy, seniority protected a$$wipes at the expense of the customers (im talking about the SEPTA union). Based on the brief things I've read about why they are striking, it seems to me that its pretty much the same thing.

You know, as much as I take pride in American cars and how they have made strides to compete with their foreign counterparts in quality, performance, ergonomics, and styling, I can see this is pretty much the beginning of the end of another manufacturing segment that we as Americans are going to lose. Only when its too late and a major source of American based manufacturing jobs are lost will we realize how much our own greed has f***ed us over.

[Cam99]

Just curious what people think about the strike. I personally think its BS, but having lived in philly im biased against unions. I watched a greedy union defend lazy, seniority protected a$$wipes at the expense of the customers (im talking about the SEPTA union). Based on the brief things I've read about why they are striking, it seems to me that its pretty much the same thing.

You know, as much as I take pride in American cars and how they have made strides to compete with their foreign counterparts in quality, performance, ergonomics, and styling, I can see this is pretty much the beginning of the end of another manufacturing segment that we as Americans are going to lose. Only when its too late and a major source of American based manufacturing jobs are lost will we realize how much our own greed has f***ed us over.

I think that most unions have been corrupted by greed and lost the true reason they were created.

[SV1000s]

ditto!

[One Sweet Day]

I think that most unions have been corrupted by greed and lost the true reason they were created.

well said

[mineralrob]

I think that most unions have been corrupted by greed and lost the true reason they were created.

X2 I'm in a union and it has done nothing for me except take money from my check monthly

[Viper_ed]

X2 I'm in a union and it has done nothing for me except take money from my check monthly

I'm sure it goes to pay for someone's Cadillac though!

[phillysrt4]

I agree with all of your sentiments regarding unions.

The one in Philly for SEPTA really sucks. In addition to getting paid far more than what they're worth, no one in the SEPTA system pays ONE DIME for their health insurance! Meanwhile there are stations in bad shape and needs repairs and they have 2 and 3 people doing the job that one person could do. Some of their conductors are rude and dont have to care because they know they cant get fired because of union seniority.

In the end who pays? Everyone in Philly who uses the transit system. They are about to raise fares again. Just to step on a bus will cost 1.70 (more if you pay cash instead of getting a token) and services suck (some buses and all but one regional rail line run just ONCE an hour on weekends, for example). People are getting fed up and they are causing a viscious cycle where ridership is going to decline and fares are going to go up to the point where the system cannot be sustained.

The same thing is going to happen IMO with the auto industry. The unions are going to take and take and take until the industry just collapses and we have no domestic auto makers anymore.

There are many states, like Arizona, that are Right to Work states. You are not required to join the union even if you are working in a place that has a union. We need to extend this to the nation. Its the only way we're going to stand a chance.

[phillysrt4]

UPDATE:

Just heard at on CBC 1 (canadian radio)

The GM's Oshua plant in Ontario shut down Plant #1 and 3,000 workers were laid off. This plant produces the Impala.

Sources say the truck plant has only 3 more days worth of parts. After that they are going to lay people off.

Plant 2 which produces grand prixs and buick allures could shut down within the next 48 hours should the strike continue.




Thanks UAW!! way to screw everyone because you're too f***ing greedy for your own good.

[Twin01cobra]

Does'nt suprise me one bit, the unions are not strong like they were back in the 60's-70's. Those workers may end up looking for new jobs or have to take big paycuts to get their jobs back.