how hard to swap a 351

**J-rod** · 09-25-2006, 01:11 PM

well im currently looking at a 95 5.0. it has 203k on it but its one owner, 100% stock and no accidents.

i was wondering how hard to make it a 351? i know the deck and heads need milled right? what about motor mounts and tranny compatability?

still have enough rom to add a blower later on?

im only gonna consider getting it if the 351 swap isnt too hard (read too much customization and fab work)

**Sonic03snake** · 09-25-2006, 01:17 PM

Shouldn't be too hard. The 95 Cobra r had a 351W in it.

**J-rod** · 09-25-2006, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by Sonic03snake

Shouldn't be too hard. The 95 Cobra r had a 351W in it.

true....which is why i was wondering about k member, mounts, etc.

alot of people telling me to pass on this stang....but i dunno a 351 95 GT...be kinda cool.

**Sonic03snake** · 09-25-2006, 01:23 PM

If I were to build another push rod motor car it would deff be a 351 base motor. No sence in going smaller, the parts cost about the same for either.

**J-rod** · 09-25-2006, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by Sonic03snake

If I were to build another push rod motor car it would deff be a 351 base motor. No sence in going smaller, the parts cost about the same for either.

MMFF had a "budget stroker kit" and it ran in the 700-800 range....i figure i could get a 351 short block done for about that.

**Rodeheaver's** · 09-25-2006, 05:21 PM

A windsor is pretty much the same as a 5.0 except for 1 inch of deck height, and no you dont have to mill or shave anything, all you need is a pan and headers, i have a new moroso pan i accidentally ordered for a customer i will give you a deal on...

**mikeymustang** · 09-25-2006, 07:10 PM

ask a member named OZNAP he JUST did a swap to his 95 making it a Cobra R....he is away on a work assignment so it might take a few days to get back to you

Mike

**J-rod** · 09-26-2006, 09:52 AM

well car i was gonna drop it into is sold...so may still ook for a cheap 94-95 5.0 as a project.

**Pure Stock** · 09-28-2006, 07:25 AM

some things needed for a 351W swap

* oil pan
* 351 specific headers
* distributor (height of deck)
* balancer and flywheel (stock 5-Liter is 50oz. imbalance)
* intake

**J-rod** · 09-28-2006, 08:03 AM

Originally Posted by Pure Stock

some things needed for a 351W swap

* oil pan
* 351 specific headers
* distributor (height of deck)
* balancer and flywheel (stock 5-Liter is 50oz. imbalance)
* intake

what kind of intake? regular 5.9 style intake no good? like GT40 or Cobra?

**Pure Stock** · 09-28-2006, 08:07 AM

Originally Posted by jared

what kind of intake? regular 5.9 style intake no good? like GT40 or Cobra?

You building a Mopar?? 5.9?? No, 5.0 lower will not work because the increased deck height requires the requisite intake to have more width. Now, you could use a 351 GT-40 lower and use an upper from a 5.0 GT-40.

**J-rod** · 09-28-2006, 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by Pure Stock

You building a Mopar?? 5.9?? No, 5.0 lower will not work because the increased deck height requires the requisite intake to have more width. Now, you could use a 351 GT-40 lower and use an upper from a 5.0 GT-40.

woops..meant 5.0. so id need a 351 lower and a 5.0 upper work? so would the intakes from a mid 90's Lightning work?

**Viper_ed** · 09-28-2006, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by jared

so would the intakes from a mid 90's Lightning work?

Yes. No matter if it is a 5.0 or 5.7 EFI Intake, the Uppers are the same for both. The width of lower is the only difference between the 2.

**Killercanary** · 09-28-2006, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by Pure Stock

some things needed for a 351W swap

* oil pan
* 351 specific headers
* distributor (height of deck)
* balancer and flywheel (stock 5-Liter is 50oz. imbalance)
* intake

Also, with a '94-'95 you will absolutely have to have a new hood. Some have tried and managed to get the stock hood to work using HP drop solid motor mounts, but its EXTREMELY close. You'd still have to notch the hood and remove the hood liner. The 95 "cobra R" hood will work. I'm not sure what you do about headers and EGR though since the 94-95's have a tube that runs from the header to the EGR valve which si located on the inlet adapter between the TB and upper intake. A lot of guys just delete it (I have too) but it requires EEC tuning to do so properly so that a CE light isn't triggered.

Get a 94-95, they're a great year to have! New looks with old school pushrod POWA!!!

**J-rod** · 09-28-2006, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by Killercanary

Also, with a '94-'95 you will absolutely have to have a new hood. Some have tried and managed to get the stock hood to work using HP drop solid motor mounts, but its EXTREMELY close. You'd still have to notch the hood and remove the hood liner. The 95 "cobra R" hood will work. I'm not sure what you do about headers and EGR though since the 94-95's have a tube that runs from the header to the EGR valve which si located on the inlet adapter between the TB and upper intake. A lot of guys just delete it (I have too) but it requires EEC tuning to do so properly so that a CE light isn't triggered.

Get a 94-95, they're a great year to have! New looks with old school pushrod POWA!!!

ive deleted EGR on all my stangs. always have the EEC flashed. ive seen a couple where they have milled heads and block to fit under stock hood....but ill just get a cowl or cobra R type. have something to back it up with. lol. im currently looking for a cheap 94-95 to have as my own project as i "think" ive finally got a garage lined up to work on it...but the car must be good enough for a DD too right now.

**Pure Stock** · 09-28-2006, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by i1arunit

Yes. No matter if it is a 5.0 or 5.7 EFI Intake, the Uppers are the same for both. The width of lower is the only difference between the 2.

What is a 5.7 liter ford? Destroked 351

**Pure Stock** · 09-28-2006, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by jared

woops..meant 5.0. so id need a 351 lower and a 5.0 upper work? so would the intakes from a mid 90's Lightning work?

Yes a mid 90's Lightning lower intake would be the ticket. Then, you could use a Cobra upper, GT40 upper, OR another style upper that has the GT-40 port configuration.

**351SVT** · 09-28-2006, 10:55 PM

Originally Posted by jared

woops..meant 5.0. so id need a 351 lower and a 5.0 upper work? so would the intakes from a mid 90's Lightning work?

You could buy those all day long at www.nloc.net gen1 classifieds!

**J-rod** · 09-29-2006, 07:54 AM

Originally Posted by 351SVT

You could buy those all day long at www.nloc.net gen1 classifieds!

looking there now...only gen 1 intake i see on first two pages is a GT-40 for $750

**Viper_ed** · 09-29-2006, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by jared

looking there now...only gen 1 intake i see on first two pages is a GT-40 for $750

The GT-40 are WAYYYYYYYYY overpriced no matter where you look. Personally I would go buy the Trick Flow R Intake for less money brand new. The Trick Flow R lower out of the box will outflow even a fully ported & welded GT-40 lower.