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    Need Opinion on Nitrous

    I have a 02 Mustang Gt 5 speed. minor stuff done to it (see my sig). I would like to know what would be a safe way to go into nitrous. my car is used as a daily driver and at the strip maybe three times a year. I would like to know what brand, (zex, nos, nx), and what size shot 50, 75, 100, 125, would be the max without me hurting something at all. Also, should I and where should I get the car tuned for this. I just want to have a little boost in power because I cannot afford a power adder, being in college, Im about ready to sell my stang for a damn wrx or dsm style import if I keep getting beat by them so help me out.
    Currently not driveable: 02 Mustang Gt: 3.73, steeda intake, tri-ax, pro-chamber mid and magnaflow mufflers (no cats), centerforce dual friction clutch.

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    if you want the safest go zex.. most power nx.. balnce of both NOS

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    Quote Originally Posted by bcavy2 View Post
    I have a 02 Mustang Gt 5 speed. minor stuff done to it (see my sig). I would like to know what would be a safe way to go into nitrous. my car is used as a daily driver and at the strip maybe three times a year. I would like to know what brand, (zex, nos, nx), and what size shot 50, 75, 100, 125, would be the max without me hurting something at all. Also, should I and where should I get the car tuned for this. I just want to have a little boost in power because I cannot afford a power adder, being in college, Im about ready to sell my stang for a damn wrx or dsm style import if I keep getting beat by them so help me out.
    I would'nt go more than a 100 shot on a stock block, 75 and your real safe. If you need some more info on nitrous and getting it tuned call Terry at Streetlethal performance 724 944-2814 as he can get you set up and tune it also
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    So you're saying at 75 tuned right with all the safety stuff like window switch etc. I should be ok? I've heard horror stories about burning up motors even at low shots. The fact is this car needs to make it through college and I have about another 3 years. It has 78,000 on it right now, I just want to know that it's not gonna kill my car to run nitrous here and there. By the way, if I had a twin turbo cobra I would have got my license suspended way before I did in my shitty gt haha.
    Currently not driveable: 02 Mustang Gt: 3.73, steeda intake, tri-ax, pro-chamber mid and magnaflow mufflers (no cats), centerforce dual friction clutch.

    08 Honda Crf250r.

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    with 78k and another 3yrs to go..... why take the chance. Yeah it could probably handle repeated 75hp shots over the next 3yrs...but just adding the nitrous increases the possibility of something going wrong. If reliability is a must for the next 3yrs, why chance it?




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    yea if you want the safest go with the ZEX kit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SV1000s View Post
    with 78k and another 3yrs to go..... why take the chance. Yeah it could probably handle repeated 75hp shots over the next 3yrs...but just adding the nitrous increases the possibility of something going wrong. If reliability is a must for the next 3yrs, why chance it?
    I agree...if you need the car to last somethings are just better left till its paid off, or its left for garage duty.

    Only takes one shot to screw yourself...boy isnt that ture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bcavy2 View Post
    So you're saying at 75 tuned right with all the safety stuff like window switch etc. I should be ok? I've heard horror stories about burning up motors even at low shots. The fact is this car needs to make it through college and I have about another 3 years. It has 78,000 on it right now, I just want to know that it's not gonna kill my car to run nitrous here and there. By the way, if I had a twin turbo cobra I would have got my license suspended way before I did in my shitty gt haha.
    Now that you explained it a little better and you want it to last 3 years then I'd just wait and save some money so when you are ready to mod you can do it right the first time. I also think that a 75 shot if not used all the time you should still be fine if tuned properly.
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    I would wait too. Even the safest N2O setup can go wrong in a hurry.

    But there are ways to do it and be safe and make reliable power. And if you do it, please go with NX. I had a horrible time with my zex kit. Zex isn't really that much more safe than any other kit with the right safety features. (IE: window switch, fpss, bigger fuel pump, good tune)

    Zex says its kit won't cause lean conditions yet the NMU (zex's Nitrous Management Unit that houses the solenoids) doesn't monitor your engines A/F. Thats where a good tune comes into play. All zex does is cut the box (NMU) out and won't spray nitrous if you loose fuel to your fuel solenoid. But thats what you use a fpss for.

    Also, some other things to think about. Zex measures its shots at the fly wheel and other kits such as NOS and NX measure there kits at the wheels. So a 125 shot of zex is about the same as a 100 shot of NX.

    Therefore, buy yourself a good kit (NX) and get all the safety features. Also, if you want the most out of the kit, invest in a good bottle heater. Good bottle pressure optimizes performance with N2O kits.

    I hit good numbers at safe A/F's with my GT with a SVT focus pump and a good tune on a 125 shot of zex. Just had a miserable time at the track with that crappy NMU box.

    Hope this helps out a little. Questions, give me a shout.
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    Thanks everybody who replied. The car is paid off I have the title but I do want it to last. I talked to street lethal performance they were going to be the ones doing the setup. Im not sure who i talked to but he's callin me back about a price...He told me zex all the way, and yes, he did mention the bottle heater and all the safety feaures I would need. I'm not gonna lie and you can ask people that know me on here that I beat the living crap out of my car, and stupid throttle happy me would probaly use the nitrous on a weekly basis. But what I dont get about it being dangerous is, isnt having a supercharger throwing boost constantly (even cruisin at low boost) worse than nitrous every now and then? If nitrous aint the way, I'm about ready to sell my car because I keep getting beat by low mod srt4s in the low 13's and shitty wrx's with a lil more boost. I like my car but I want to have my cake and eat it too. haha.
    Currently not driveable: 02 Mustang Gt: 3.73, steeda intake, tri-ax, pro-chamber mid and magnaflow mufflers (no cats), centerforce dual friction clutch.

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    The biggest problem with N2O is puddling. If you use a wet kit, which I'm assuming you are going to use, you spray fuel into your intake. In stock form, your intake was never designed to flow fuel and fuel can puddle. If it puddles and you have a small back fire, it can ignite the fuel and cause your intake to blow apart.

    Also, there is talk about how nitrous isn't always evenly distributed evenly to all cylinders causing lean conditions in some more so than others.

    With boost, you are flowing air still through the intake, just under more pressure which makes it more constant and predictable for the most part.

    Anything can happen with FI or N20. Just get it tuned and have fun!
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    My advice is that if you are going to spray and you want your motor to last then use all the safty equipment that goes along with it. FPSS, and a window switch so it will only spray at higher RPMs (less chance of puddling), and a colder set of sparkplugs. 75 or 100 shot max, and I'd use a wet shot. If you do it right and use all the proper equipment it makes for a relitively safe poweradder, but till you buy all the stuff and get tuned for it , it will end up costing more than you think. I had almost 1000 in my system on the Mach and it was nothing special. It's fun as hell when you hit the switch though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cam99 View Post
    If you do it right and use all the proper equipment it makes for a relitively safe poweradder, but till you buy all the stuff and get tuned for it , it will end up costing more than you think.
    So true. I had about $1300 into mine plus dyno time.
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    i guess Im on the same page as I was before I asked the question. Reliability is in question, and without 90% reassurance that sumtin stupid wont happen, then I guess I might lay off the nitrous but hey cam how often did you run it on that Mach 1?
    Currently not driveable: 02 Mustang Gt: 3.73, steeda intake, tri-ax, pro-chamber mid and magnaflow mufflers (no cats), centerforce dual friction clutch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bcavy2 View Post
    i guess Im on the same page as I was before I asked the question. Reliability is in question, and without 90% reassurance that sumtin stupid wont happen, then I guess I might lay off the nitrous but hey cam how often did you run it on that Mach 1?
    Honestly I ran more bottles through it tying to get the stupid Zex kit to work than I did racing it. Probably 5-6 bottles altogether before I took it back off. I was spraying a 100 (75) at first then a 125(100) most of the time.

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    Build the engine right so there is no need for a bottle.;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cam99 View Post
    Honestly I ran more bottles through it tying to get the stupid Zex kit to work than I did racing it. Probably 5-6 bottles altogether before I took it back off. I was spraying a 100 (75) at first then a 125(100) most of the time.

    ^^^Yea, that.^^^
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    [QUOTE=bcavy2;67711]Suspended license, i effin hate copsQUOTE]

    ya might wanna get this straightened out before you worry bout NOS

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    haha, build the motor? If I had that kinda money to blow I would have a power adder by now...If zex has so many problems then why in the hell would I buy zex? And cam you had that kinda trouble even after street lethal worked on it?
    Currently not driveable: 02 Mustang Gt: 3.73, steeda intake, tri-ax, pro-chamber mid and magnaflow mufflers (no cats), centerforce dual friction clutch.

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