The results are in....

**gmkillr** · 10-25-2007, 12:33 PM

When did he once blame Jay in any of his posts here in this thread for anything?

**Sonic03snake** · 10-25-2007, 12:34 PM

Keep it civil guys!!! I don't want to have any clean up here.

**Domination** · 10-25-2007, 12:35 PM

Holy smokes!! Even if it was 12.0:1 or leaner. It wasn't detonating during many many tests. Regardless, its was well within the generally accepted "safe zone" as Nate stated. Why get into arguments over speculation, when that might not be the facts yet. Bottom line is I trust Nate enough to refer other people to him. That says a lot. Bish miss states a lot of things cause he's not a tech. Not trying to personally insult Bish, but because of his ignorance he sometimes makes people that are doing proper thing look bad.

**Sonic03snake** · 10-25-2007, 12:38 PM

My car has been at 12.0 - 11.9 for ever.

**somethingclever** · 10-25-2007, 12:44 PM

Turbo cars are generally run a little more rich due to the heat they retain in the cylinders from exh. backpressure pre-turbo.

But if the car responded to pulling out fuel then that's a good thing. :)

I don't know much about LS1's but i think the combustion chamber design is pretty efficient....that said...13deg timing seems plenty conservative to me.

Hope you're back on the road soon Bish.

**Bluemeanietsi** · 10-25-2007, 12:50 PM

You guys are mistaking knock from running lean, knock is from timing at certain a/f values. In theory there is a safe point for all a/f ratios and octane rratings if your timing is set properly.

Cars can run lean and melt and never knock just as much as cars can knock and be damaged from running rich as well.

**SonofaBish** · 10-25-2007, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by somethingclever

I don't know much about LS1's but i think the combustion chamber design is pretty efficient....that said...13deg timing seems plenty conservative to me.

Hope you're back on the road soon Bish.

well, like i said, the typical setup like this is running 17 or 18* of timing, so this is very conservative in the timing sense.... As for the rest of it, i never claim to be some know-it-all like Quik, so i just go off of what TPG says.... if he said it was ok, then all i can do is assume it was fine... when it comes to tuning, i don't think theres any better ... that's why i went with him to do it...

Thank you... i hope so too!

**somethingclever** · 10-25-2007, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by Bluemeanietsi

You guys QUIK are mistaking knock from running lean, knock is from timing at certain a/f values. In theory there is a safe point FROM KNOCK for all a/f ratios and octane rratings if your timing is set properly.

Cars can run lean and melt and never knock just as much as cars can knock and be damaged from running rich as well.

I fixed the above for you.

**SV1000s** · 10-25-2007, 02:24 PM

SCS Christmas party oughta be interesting!!!! lol

**billyNOTnice** · 10-25-2007, 03:13 PM

why are you guys arguing like a bunch of little girls... jesus christ. tuck your vagina's back in. Aslo Quik everyone else in here has the ability to repeat what they read on other forums too, quit being so arrogant... and unless you have torn the motor down, everything any one of you say is all just stipulation. most people on here know what can cause a gasket to pop.. just go to google and save yourself some time... no offesne to anyone on here, i just felt like thowing in some bs to poke you guys... feel free to take shots at me back, i might reply if i don't forget about this thread lol

**Domination** · 10-25-2007, 03:42 PM

STFU until you learn to paint your hoods!

j/k

**somethingclever** · 10-25-2007, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by Domination

STFU until you learn to paint your hoods!

j/k

Maybe that's supposed to be an extra wide stripe??? :D

**billyNOTnice** · 10-25-2007, 10:24 PM

haha, you wouldn't believe how much shit i've got everywhere from having this unpainted hood... I'm repainted the entire car black this winter so i'm leaving it in gelcoat until then. P.S. when i drive a turbo 93 cobra i do what i want ;) hahaha

**Domination** · 10-25-2007, 10:48 PM

except drive around me in a 90 gt turbo?

**u1arunit** · 10-25-2007, 11:00 PM

Originally Posted by gmkillr

Blown application should be tuned to the 11.0-11.5 A/F range to be on the safe side for a street driven car that runs on pump gas.
IMO.

I was going to say this as well. Run it rich and lean won't cause detonation unless the octane is borderline already.

Personally I wouldn't look to run a combo making that much power on 93 octane. Too many bad things happen once you are on the street under a real load and you get a bad batch of gas.

Get a wideband O2 installed in that car and watch it like a hawk. Never run it over 11.5 A/F.

Use good fuel (100+octane) in it, keep the timing conservative, and you will be fine.

**billyNOTnice** · 10-25-2007, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by Domination

except drive around me in a 90 gt turbo?

i'm listening????????

**Laura00WS6** · 10-26-2007, 12:38 AM

bish let quik tune it, then you'll blow both heads gaskets

**stieny** · 10-26-2007, 03:27 AM

Nice numbers bish!

Hope everything gets worked out for you.

**SonofaBish** · 10-26-2007, 07:25 AM

Originally Posted by u1arunit

I was going to say this as well. Run it rich and lean won't cause detonation unless the octane is borderline already.

Personally I wouldn't look to run a combo making that much power on 93 octane. Too many bad things happen once you are on the street under a real load and you get a bad batch of gas.

Get a wideband O2 installed in that car and watch it like a hawk. Never run it over 11.5 A/F.

Use good fuel (100+octane) in it, keep the timing conservative, and you will be fine.

wideband is already in it....

i've had him order a meth/water injection kit.... that SHOULD take care of any problems with bad gas/octane (from what i hear)