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    Adjustable pinion snubbers

    Anyone running an adjustable pinion snubber? My Capri pre dates any snubber, so I dont have one now. Looking at some pictures, I'm wondering if one would help me any.

    Rear suspension is CHE upper and lower arms, Eibach launch springs, and an air bag in the right rear. The car moves a good bit on launch, I just wonder if controlling that a little more would be a benefit.

    Pretty typical launch....


    Same deal, maybe a little better than average......


    This pic is on QTP's versus my typical ET streets, but shows the attitude of the car at "rest".....


    Hopefully you can see how much the car is moving. Will a pinion snubber turn that squat into forward movement faster, or just unload the car too fast????

    Thoughts are appareciated.

    Bob Myers

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    I put one on my friends 83 Capri RS (welded the top piece to the body) and it works really well. I had one on my 85 Capri RS but it just bolted up, It's a noticable difference.

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    i am thinking adj. shocks would help more and allow you to slow the "hit "
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    car looks like it's launching good, it always feels worse than it really looks!!! imo you should be thinking about ditching the air bag and installing an anti-roll bar. i throw my snubbers in the trash can...
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    I run a Mac adjustable one on mine. Works pretty well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yeahloh95 View Post
    i am thinking adj. shocks would help more and allow you to slow the "hit "
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    I would love an anti roll bar, but the car is daily driven and has a 3" exhaust over the axle. Neither of them work out real well with an ARB ;)

    I have been considering upgrading shocks. I have decent ones now, but non adjustable. Not sure if its the right drection right now.

    I guess I was thinking that I dont want to slow the transfer any more than it is, just be able to limit how far it travles with a snubber. I think I'm going to bolt one on there and see what I can do with it. Worst case, I pull it off ;)

    Lou - you do any tuning with it, or just set it to some air gap and have at it?

    Bob Myers

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    i have never ahd any luck with one, they tend to unload the rear ...
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    Ill post up some details later but it seems to work well on mine. Not too many if any eaton powered cobras w/o N2o have 60 fted a 1.41 - 1.44 on a consistant basis.
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    Another idea is to tighten the front struts. So, in essence, your looking for less weight transfer?

    Front limiting straps??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pure Stock View Post
    Another idea is to tighten the front struts. So, in essence, your looking for less weight transfer?

    Front limiting straps??
    Yep, Adj struts and shocks are well worth the money. Long before I had the anti roll bar and snubber I had adjustables at all 4 corners. I always ran the passenger rear shock 2-3 clicks stiffer than the drivers side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic03snake View Post
    Ill post up some details later but it seems to work well on mine. Not too many if any eaton powered cobras w/o N2o have 60 fted a 1.41 - 1.44 on a consistant basis.
    thats because of your full drag suspension (anti-roll bar included), not your pinion snubber!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfpack Speed View Post
    thats because of your full drag suspension (anti-roll bar included), not your pinion snubber!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pure Stock View Post
    Another idea is to tighten the front struts. So, in essence, your looking for less weight transfer?
    I have Koni adjustables on the front. I'm pretty happy with them right now.

    I dont know what I want :D What I want is better 60's ;) It just seems like there is too much motion going into squat, and less going forward, but I surely need the weight transfer, its on the verge of breaking loose all the time. What i thought the snubber would do is let it transfer, but give me some tuning to that. I will look into adjustable shocks some more, plus I will have more tire under the car this year, that might help too ;)

    Bob Myers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin0660 View Post
    I have Koni adjustables on the front. I'm pretty happy with them right now.

    I dont know what I want :D What I want is better 60's ;) It just seems like there is too much motion going into squat, and less going forward, but I surely need the weight transfer, its on the verge of breaking loose all the time. What i thought the snubber would do is let it transfer, but give me some tuning to that. I will look into adjustable shocks some more, plus I will have more tire under the car this year, that might help too ;)

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    Hey Bob, there are a few different Anti-roll bar setups out there that mount under the axle so you can still run tail pipes and you can just disconnect the end links for when you're street driving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pure Stock View Post
    Look into the clutch set-up, gearing, and tire size. Sometimes a little more sidewall goes a long way.;)
    Clutch is pretty well fixed. I run a SPEC 3+, its about the only thing that will hold, yet still be able to drive it. Gearing is an issue, Actually transmission gears are the problem, 3.97 1st is too short with a 3:73, what I need is a 3.35 1st box and a 4.10 rear, but its not happening this year. I am going from a 26-10.50 ETS to a 27-10.5, a little taller, plus 1/2 wider. Still not fixed on that, still considering a 28" tire, but final decissions on gears come into play.

    Quote Originally Posted by Viper_ed View Post
    Hey Bob, there are a few different Anti-roll bar setups out there that mount under the axle so you can still run tail pipes and you can just disconnect the end links for when you're street driving.
    I've looked at them a little. Still not sure its right for me right now.

    Bob Myers

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    i know of alot of cars that picked up with an anti roll bar, but they aren't good for street driving, strange makes a nice adj. shock .
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    The answer is not easy... you have to be willing to give up some streetability. The anti roll bar is the answer for the best sixty foot your car is capable of.

    I don't think a pinion snubber will have any positive effects on your suspension travel. If your pinion angle is set correctly you do not want a pinion snubber interfering with the suspension travel.

    Adjustable shocks and the air bag and a drag spring is about your limit without an anti roll bar setup. There are a few setup that the NMRA factory stock guys use that still allow the exhaust to exit the rear. You best bet is one of those.
    Hank

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