Project Maxine

[Pure Stock]

I would suggest trick flow heads over afr. It will make more power and you can run a decent cam and a 2.02 valve without fly cutting the pistons.

Now why would you go and do such a thing. Your not supposed to tell them the trick flows will make more power, now we are going to have to step up our game.

[04yellowcobra]

For the best price on AFR heads shipped check with Kevin at http://www.kskustoms.com Tell him I sent you, I don't think you'll find a better deal.

I have a set of AFR185's for sale, but they are pedestal and are not for the novice to install.

not beating adperformance and they have free shipping!

[04yellowcobra]

I beg to differ. :)

Me too!!

[Chris00GT]

I used to run AFR 185's with an F cam on my stock 302 for a whole season. I didn't have to fly cut my pistons :) There is a big power gains going with 185's over 165's. We see customers all the time that are upset with the low power gains with the 165's. I'd love to put 185's on my 91 Notch, but with all those knock off heads on the market for half the price I bought a set of Victor Jr knock off heads. The only thing is I know I'm going to have to fly cut my stock pistons.

[Killercanary]

Jason, Kevin will beat AD, trust me on that. :D Brian is a great person to buy from too though.

Chris, how much PTV clearance did you have? As far as I know, only the TW and holley heads will clear the factory pistons with their 2.02" intake valves. the TW gets away with it due to the valve location, the holley gets away with it due to the valve being recessed into the chamber further than most.


As for the TW versus AFR debate... they are both great heads and in the end it all comes down to the combination. This topic has been beat to death so many times that if anyone wants more information all they have to do is check the corral or hardcore, there should be enough reading on the subject to last until PRP opens for next years season. LOL!

[Pure Stock]

Your all correct. It is going to be aroun $3 for just the parts and that is not including the bore or the 331 stroker kit..... Now I don't know what to do........

Here's what to do www.totalengineairflow.com

[Killercanary]

LOL!

Or go here...

http://www.flowtechinduction.com

Sorry Joe, I wasn't going to do it but you had to go and put up a Tooley link. :D

To the original poster, there are a LOT of options available to you if you want to get into the custom stuff. Joe put up his favorite and I put up mine, but there are also others out there. You will find that most people tend to be very loyal to the person they chose if they were satisfied with their work. If you want to stick with box stock stuff and a "budget" build then really I don't see a need for you to get anything custom what-so-ever except for maybe a cam. The custom cam offerings are typically not much more expensive than some of the newer technology cams available off the shelf. The older alphabet cams and such are substantially cheaper, but there are much better cam profiles available today.

Is there a specific 1/4 miles ET/MPH that you want, or a certain HP number?

I still think that the best budget combo available is a ford explorer/mercury mountaineer long block with the GT40P heads (they recieved these mid year during the '97 production run). These can be had fairly cheaply, and with a cam swap and a head mill you should be in the upper 200's in terms of rwhp for far less than your budget if you plan it right. There have been a few guys getting to the 290's but I don't recall anyone yet topping 300rwhp.

[Pure Stock]

Here is a combo I found on the corral. The combo consists of a stock shortblock, GT-40P's (ported), the infamous "F" alphabet cam, a rpm efi intake(ported), 75mm T.B., Pro-M 77 MAF, Tremec trans, and a vehicle weight of 3180. N/A e.t. 11.94@115.1 This combo was daily driven according to the author of the reply.

Makes me want to build one on the cheap.

[RUSH2112]

LOL!

Or go here...

http://www.flowtechinduction.com

Sorry Joe, I wasn't going to do it but you had to go and put up a Tooley link. :D

To the original poster, there are a LOT of options available to you if you want to get into the custom stuff. Joe put up his favorite and I put up mine, but there are also others out there. You will find that most people tend to be very loyal to the person they chose if they were satisfied with their work. If you want to stick with box stock stuff and a "budget" build then really I don't see a need for you to get anything custom what-so-ever except for maybe a cam. The custom cam offerings are typically not much more expensive than some of the newer technology cams available off the shelf. The older alphabet cams and such are substantially cheaper, but there are much better cam profiles available today.

Is there a specific 1/4 miles ET/MPH that you want, or a certain HP number?

I still think that the best budget combo available is a ford explorer/mercury mountaineer long block with the GT40P heads (they recieved these mid year during the '97 production run). These can be had fairly cheaply, and with a cam swap and a head mill you should be in the upper 200's in terms of rwhp for far less than your budget if you plan it right. There have been a few guys getting to the 290's but I don't recall anyone yet topping 300rwhp.

Thanks Paul. All I am looking for is to rebuild my engine and add some power to it. I was hoping to surpass 300HP rear wheel, while trying to do it as cheaply as possible. This is, and will be, a daily driver. It will never be raced (on the track) and eventually will be a show car (hopefully someday). The reason for my choice in cams is that I heard that was the best cam for what I want (B303). I want an agreesive cam with a SERIOUS lope/idle. I want it to be loud and sound mean.

[Stangman701]

Here's a short little vid I made of my 5.0 at idle. Not the best quality, I was just playing around with the idle to get it to sound just right. I can try to e-mail you the original if you want, it's a little better quality quicktime video. I have the exact same exhaust setup as you, bbk longtubes w/ matching o/r h and 2 chamber flows. The cam is a comp cams XE274 .555 intake, .565 exhaust I think are the lift specs... http://media.putfile.com/Cammed-50

[RUSH2112]

Here's a short little vid I made of my 5.0 at idle. Not the best quality, I was just playing around with the idle to get it to sound just right. I can try to e-mail you the original if you want, it's a little better quality quicktime video. I have the exact same exhaust setup as you, bbk longtubes w/ matching o/r h and 2 chamber flows. The cam is a comp cams XE274 .555 intake, .565 exhaust I think are the lift specs... http://media.putfile.com/Cammed-50

Thanks Ray. PM Sent