gas prices

[Rodeheaver's]

Tim,you need to go back and do some more research.The record was 42 Billion. Yes, it was a record. It was on the front page of the paper we get at work a few weeks ago.

wow, thats pretty nuts, i think read that in a stupid people mag or something..

[One Sweet Day]

Regarding corn and E85, most farmers make are subsidized more from the government than they would make by growing corn. I grew up on a 2500 acre farm and a year or so ago I asked my cousin who's dad owns it if they were going to jump on the band wagon and start to grow more corn and he laughed at the thought and said they are paid more not to grow it than they would make if they did.


I've thought about this a lot and how we could make a impact. I agree a 1-2 day boycott makes no sense since we would all fill up before or after the boycott. What I think might have a chance at working is for America to have a "stay at home day" where every business would voluntarily close for a day or two and people would stay home and off the roads. This would in fact decrease demand and cause a temporary surplus. Of course this would be a VERY hard thing to accomplish because due to how shitty the economy is right now, most businesses couldn't afford a day without sales and income. The potential benefit from the increase in gas surplus would probably be outweighed by the negative economic impact on everything else by the country shutting down for a day or two.

One thing I will add is that I know of a guy that used to drive a tanker truck that hauled fuel. He left that job for another and things didn't work out. He went back to get his old job and he is unable to because the company actually had layoffs as there has been less demand for fuel and they didn't need as many trucks in their fleet.... tell me that doesn't piss you off! That's proof right there that we are using less fuel (either by cutting back on our miles driven or by the availability of more fuel efficient vehicles in recent years) yet fuel prices keep going up.


Philly, from what I hear, you're idea on the alcohol license is already too late and that the permit fees are CRAZY expensive now.

The local TSWP of Portage PA recently passed a law stating that if you install a wind mill on your property you would have to pay a $2500 permit fee/year. tell me that isn't a prime example of government corruption, and the fact that its on such a small scale just shows how bad the problem is.


Does anyone know where to even start looking for information on solar power systems for homes?

I was at the home and garden show at the convention center and there was a company that had a booth, I didn't catch the name, I'll look in the program tomorrow and see if I find it.

[gmkillr]

Gas useage has came down, I read the other day it was down like 1.2% from the previous month. This was the biggest drop in useage for a month since like 1992. But yet the prices keep skyrocketing!

[J-rod]

just out of curiosity what does 87 cost where yall are?

we avg. $3.50 per gallon for 87 here

[SV1000s]

$3.29

[phillysrt4]

Philly, from what I hear, you're idea on the alcohol license is already too late and that the permit fees are CRAZY expensive now.

The local TSWP of Portage PA recently passed a law stating that if you install a wind mill on your property you would have to pay a $2500 permit fee/year. tell me that isn't a prime example of government corruption, and the fact that its on such a small scale just shows how bad the problem is.


Does anyone know where to even start looking for information on solar power systems for homes?

Thats friggin criminal! they want to make sure that when it comes to energy, they have you by the balls. There has to be a state constitutional challenge to that law.

As for solar power systems, you can try:

www.ecasavesenergy.org
www.phillysolar.org (part of the million solar roofs partnership, so their information about grants pertains to the feds and state, so you would qualify in pittsburgh)

Solar Panel Manufacturers:
BP Solar (acquired Solarex solar panels) - http://www.bpsolar.us/
solar cells limited - http://www.solar-cells.net/solar.html


solar shingles - install like shingles, act like solar panels:
www.oksolar.com/roof
alpha solar - http://www.alphasolar.com/alpha_solar_062.htm


Solar Panel and system outlets (for things like inverters and ancillary supplies):
www.solarhome.org
www.mrsolar.com
www.evergreensolar.com

Those should be enough to get you started.

I've been a fan of and followed solar tech for about 20 years now. If you want an assessment done for your property or have any questions about buyback programs (PA is now "net metering" which means if you hook to the grid and you generate a surplus you get a check for what they would sell it to you for) or any other information let me know.

[phillysrt4]

Oh yeah, $3.15 at Wawa this morning.

[gmkillr]

$3.29 in Weirton & Robinson

[03 OW SVT]

3.29 for regular @ sh!ts(Sheets) in B.F this morning.

[Killercanary]

$3.29 for 87 at Sheetz here in Altoona today. :(

[J-rod]

3.29?

quit complaining......:)

i got $3.50 per gallon and driving 50 miles a day just to and from work :(










its only $0.20 but it adds up

[INSANELY CRAZY]

last sunday i was down morgantown,wv and while the price up here was 3.19/gal it was 3.30 there, now it's 3.50/gal

heard today it's gonna be up another .20 by the end of this month

[burnoutman]

$3.29 at Sheetz and Unmarts in the Clearfield area......Here in Coalport there is only one place to get gas and it is a small place called Minit-Marts and they also are $3.29...

The Focus is looking better ever day......


Joe

[gmkillr]

3.29?

quit complaining......:)

i got $3.50 per gallon and driving 50 miles a day just to and from work :(
its only $0.20 but it adds up

I drive 66 miles round trip a day to work and my wife drives 74 miles a day round trip, but we have 2 honda civic's that we use for work purposes.
The 02 civic get 38mpg and the 07 civic gets 33-34mpg.

[Twin01cobra]

I spend between 150.00-200.00 a week in gas just for my work vehicle, plus probably another 30.00-50.00 in the wifes car

[J-rod]

I drive 66 miles round trip a day to work and my wife drives 74 miles a day round trip, but we have 2 honda civic's that we use for work purposes.
The 02 civic get 38mpg and the 07 civic gets 33-34mpg.

i need something like that, ideally....just dont like them too much

[gmkillr]

i need something like that, ideally....just dont like them too much

There nice reliable cars, the 02 civic has 120,xxx miles on it now and it still runs as good as it did when it was brand new. Only thing replaced on it was front brake pads, tires, and oil.

[speedracer]

I spend between 150.00-200.00 a week in gas just for my work vehicle, plus probably another 30.00-50.00 in the wifes car

I spend 0$ going to work Company buys the gas for in my service truck. I spend 10$ every week in the winter and maybe 30$ in the summer

[Twin01cobra]

I spend 0$ going to work Company buys the gas for in my service truck. I spend 10$ every week in the winter and maybe 30$ in the summer

Now thats a good benefit