Engine Build ideas

[HidalgoGT]

Ok, need some opinion's for when I do get the car.
I was looking into buying a stroker kit/shortblock 347. My future plans is to put a kenne bell blowzilla on it. Saveing the money might take a lil while and with a big supercharger you only want like what 8.5 comp. ratio?
So, build the 347 and run it n/a with low comp til i get the blower or build it say 10.1 and refreshen it when i get the blower and put new pistons in?

Never ran a blower so I will be full of questions in the future I am sure. I want to make plenty of power driveable and kill those damn ricer's. Opinion's greatly appreciated.

[gmkillr]

Many choices for engines but here's where I went.
www.FordStrokers.com
Talk to Woody and tell him Robert (gmkillr) sent you.
He's a great, intelligent guy that forgot more about small block fords than most guy's know. He's building my Mexican block 347 as we speak.

[Pure Stock]

I vote for an N/A combo. If you do the 3.4" stroke 347 you'll have an easy 380-400 rwtq if you match the given components accordingly.

[HidalgoGT]

I vote for an N/A combo. If you do the 3.4" stroke 347 you'll have an easy 380-400 rwtq if you match the given components accordingly.

If I go straight N/A it gets a bottle in the trunk.

Thanks, gmkillr i'll check him out.

[Killercanary]

Realistically how much power do you want to make? Do you plan on using a stock block? Will you do your own tuning or have someone do it for you?

[HidalgoGT]

Realistically how much power do you want to make? Do you plan on using a stock block? Will you do your own tuning or have someone do it for you?

How much power? Well I would like to make around 400 or so N/A then juice it. Or Kenne bell blowzilla 550 ish. The car comes with an extra 302 block. If it can't handle it just opt for a pre built short block.

[Pure Stock]

400 at the crank?

[HidalgoGT]

400 at the crank?

At the wheels is that unrealistic for a 302/347?

[Pure Stock]

At the wheels is that unrealistic for a 302/347?

Can be done fairly easily. Any ideas on cylinder heads, cam, and intake choices?

[HidalgoGT]

Can be done fairly easily. Any ideas on cylinder heads, cam, and intake choices?

Heads I was thinking canfield or afr, Cam have no clue who makes a good one or have to get a custom one. Intake I am open for ideas. See tons of choices with the hp i want probaly a short runner? 5.0 stuff is a lil new to me hence why I asked for ideas.

[Pure Stock]

Heads I was thinking canfield or afr, Cam have no clue who makes a good one or have to get a custom one. Intake I am open for ideas. See tons of choices with the hp i want probaly a short runner? 5.0 stuff is a lil new to me hence why I asked for ideas.

Well from what you said here's where I'd go for a street/strip combo:

~ AFR 205's
~ Custom cam
~ Holley SMII or TFS R-Series Box with a 90mm T.B.
~ 1 3/4" Long tube
~ some type of tune
~ 400rwhp/400rwtq or better....

[HidalgoGT]

Well from what you said here's where I'd go for a street/strip combo:

~ AFR 205's
~ Custom cam
~ Holley SMII or TFS R-Series Box with a 90mm T.B.
~ 1 3/4" Long tube
~ some type of tune
~ 400rwhp/400rwtq or better....

Tune wise kauffmans/SGS still about the best around?
Thanks for the setup ideas. Any ideas on who is good at custom cam's?

[Pure Stock]

Tune wise kauffmans/SGS still about the best around?
Thanks for the setup ideas. Any ideas on who is good at custom cam's?

SGS is cool, had some dyno time there on a few occasions. Never had a chip burned from them though. Killercanary had several custom cams sourced from FTI. He relayed to me that the customer service was good and the products performed above his expectations. There are others and it seems like they are all pretty close on the cost.

[gmkillr]

400rwhp n/a is going to require some well selected parts.

[Killercanary]

I would opt for a supercharged 306 to obtain your goals if its a car that'll see a lot of street time. Although 400rwhp can be obtained with todays available parts, I think you'd have a more streetable setup by adding a blower to a mild H/C/I setup. Look at Rob's car, its a stock '94-95 cobra with a vortech and it makes 500 to the wheels. To make even 400 NA in a 94-95 is going to take a good amount of planning and selection of the correct parts, and it won't be as streetable as a mild HCI car with even low boost levels that will make even more HP than the NA combo will.

The late model roller blocks start to be a weak link when you start making good power or spin them very high. If you want reliable 500+rwhp you should really upgrade the block to something like the new ford boss or dart block.

The 94-95's definitely need a little more attention when it comes to tuning them. I'd talk to Don from http://www.lasotaracing.com or Dave at SGS. Don has owned 94-95's before and had all sorts of combos with them, he is also a superchips trainer.

As for a cam, everyone has their person favorites. I went with Ed Curtis at http://www.flowtechinduction.com and I couldn't have been happier. My dad and my cousin have also bought cams and various other parts from him and our experience with him has been outstanding. I highly recommend him. As for an engine builder, I had Rick from http://www.rnhperformance.com build my dart block 331. Rick is as good as they come, and his customer service is second to none. Research the engine builders that are recommended to you on various sites and see what others have to say about them, but I know you'll find all happy customers with Rick. Rick is located in PA as well.

[HidalgoGT]

400rwhp n/a is going to require some well selected parts.

Yup and well selected money as well I see. I want to build one right and fast. Gonna love to work OT all I can now lol.

[gmkillr]

I've had great service from Jay Allen at www.camshaftinnovations.com
He helped me make over 500 rwhp w/ a stock motor, one of his cams, and some boost! Any of the custom cam guys should easily be able to make a 400rwhp combo for you.

[gmkillr]

I also second www.Lasotaracing.com for tuning as thats who tuned my car and I was extremely happy with Don & Rob's service and the #'s the helped me get with my combo.

[HidalgoGT]

I've had great service from Jay Allen at www.camshaftinnovations.com
He helped me make over 500 rwhp w/ a stock motor, one of his cams, and some boost! Any of the custom cam guys should easily be able to make a 400rwhp combo for you.

Thank you guys for all the help. Blower is still an option just might fall later in the year. Always loved the blower whine. So maybe for now just throw a bunch of bolt on's for now simple stuff til I just buy the blower and long block. Kicking the ideas around while killing time ya know.

[gmkillr]

Trickflow 205 cnc TEA twisted wedge heads
Custom cam
Holley intake
347 shortblock
1 3/4 headers w/ 3" collector
full 3" exhaust
electric water pump

Easily 400 rwhp+