Engine Build ideas

[biminiLX]

Some good suggestions here so far but you need to answer a few questions:
1) stock block? If thats your plan, your only going to want to make 500hp anyway to keep it safe and reliable.
2) how much street time do you plan vs. how much sacrifice of street manners?
3) do you want to boost/NOS or do you want to keep it NA?
You can make 400rwhp NA at 10:1-11:1 or make 375rwhp range at 9:1-9.5:1 and have fun until you add low boost to get to 500rwhp.
I've had 450+rwhp NA and 460rwhp boosted and the blower car will be more streetable.
BTW, I've also had good success with Ed Curtis FTI.
-J

[Pure Stock]

Here's some interesting results:

3.4" stroke 347 c.i.d., pistons .007" in the hole, 7cc valve reliefs, flat tops.

~ T.E.A. Twisted Wedge 185 cc heads
~ 10.46:1 compression ratio
~ Comp cams custom cam 232/236 .545/.545 110 LSA 107 ICL
~ TFS R-lower with R-Box upper
~ electric water pump
~ 1 3/4" Hooker Super Comp long tubes

* heads were milled from 64 cc's to 58 cc's to achieve 10.46:1 c.r.

FWHP/FWTQ outputs: 506/431

If a 15% loss through the drivetrain occurs RWHP/RWTQ outputs would be:

430/366 to the wheels.

[HidalgoGT]

Some good suggestions here so far but you need to answer a few questions:
1) stock block? If thats your plan, your only going to want to make 500hp anyway to keep it safe and reliable.
2) how much street time do you plan vs. how much sacrifice of street manners?
3) do you want to boost/NOS or do you want to keep it NA?
You can make 400rwhp NA at 10:1-11:1 or make 375rwhp range at 9:1-9.5:1 and have fun until you add low boost to get to 500rwhp.
I've had 450+rwhp NA and 460rwhp boosted and the blower car will be more streetable.
BTW, I've also had good success with Ed Curtis FTI.
-J

1)Might be a stock block to build off of. Depends on the combo and if its to close to those numbers then i'll opt for a dart one.
2)Lot's of street time but as far as manners go. Who needs those? lol
3)Unsure as why I was asking ideas and then go from there. If I build an N/A car it will for sure have a bottle in the trunk for a lil more fun on occasion. I did tend to go threw alot in my 4.6 car. So a 400-425 hp N/A with 100-150 shot would be fun. I have gotten to ride in a cobra and an old 5.0 vert with a blower on it and loved the sound and rush from them supercharger. Its there all the time vs nitrous you have to fill up alot. So that means a cost as well.

[biminiLX]

1)Might be a stock block to build off of. Depends on the combo and if its to close to those numbers then i'll opt for a dart one.
2)Lot's of street time but as far as manners go. Who needs those? lol
3)Unsure as why I was asking ideas and then go from there. If I build an N/A car it will for sure have a bottle in the trunk for a lil more fun on occasion. I did tend to go threw alot in my 4.6 car. So a 400-425 hp N/A with 100-150 shot would be fun. I have gotten to ride in a cobra and an old 5.0 vert with a blower on it and loved the sound and rush from them supercharger. Its there all the time vs nitrous you have to fill up alot. So that means a cost as well.

Resonse to those points:
1) Well, you pretty much need to figure that one out and its a $1500-2000 (difference in cost w/ machining) question. I'm all for (and did) spending the cash to have a solid block, but if you'll be happy at 500hp and will definitely not go over (tough question to answer honestly) a stock block saves big money.
2) If it really sees lots of street time then you need to answer that seriously right?
3) I'm not a NOS guy, I'd vote mild NA build then add boost.
Are you just building to a horsepower goal or is there a performance goal?
-J

[biminiLX]

Here's some interesting results:

3.4" stroke 347 c.i.d., pistons .007" in the hole, 7cc valve reliefs, flat tops.

~ T.E.A. Twisted Wedge 185 cc heads
~ 10.46:1 compression ratio
~ Comp cams custom cam 232/236 .545/.545 110 LSA 107 ICL
~ TFS R-lower with R-Box upper
~ electric water pump
~ 1 3/4" Hooker Super Comp long tubes

* heads were milled from 64 cc's to 58 cc's to achieve 10.46:1 c.r.

FWHP/FWTQ outputs: 506/431

If a 15% loss through the drivetrain occurs RWHP/RWTQ outputs would be:

430/366 to the wheels.

I like, sounds like that'd be a lot of fun on the street.
-J

[Pure Stock]

I like, sounds like that'd be a lot of fun on the street.
-J

I would have liked to see the TFS Stage III ( 236/248@.050, .574"/.595") cam tested.

[HidalgoGT]

Resonse to those points:
1) Well, you pretty much need to figure that one out and its a $1500-2000 (difference in cost w/ machining) question. I'm all for (and did) spending the cash to have a solid block, but if you'll be happy at 500hp and will definitely not go over (tough question to answer honestly) a stock block saves big money.
2) If it really sees lots of street time then you need to answer that seriously right?
3) I'm not a NOS guy, I'd vote mild NA build then add boost.
Are you just building to a horsepower goal or is there a performance goal?
-J

To sum it up; I don't mind nitrous used it liked it, it was fun. Street manners, I drovbe my old one with et streets on the back skinnies up front no sway bars drag struts and shocks. Drag springs. Sure it didn't handle for crap on the corners but, I really didn't care. So, if the n/a set up hogs down high test gas and annoys the hell out of people as it barks down the road I don't mind at all. Not saying I am going manual brakes and steering though. Drove my friend tom's 69 nova that way. I'll stick to power ones.
As, far as goal a nice mid 11 second car maybe low 11's would be nice(10's even better lol). It will see alot of street time. I think cars are meant to be driven not trailered unless they are full drag.

[HidalgoGT]

400rwhp n/a is going to require some well selected parts.

Talked to "Woody" we kicked around some larger sized ideas hehe.

[gmkillr]

Talked to "Woody" we kicked around some larger sized ideas hehe.

Cool! Isnt he a great guy to talk to? He wont b.s. you and have you buy parts that you dont need or want for your goals.

[TJH64]

Cool! Isnt he a great guy to talk to? He wont b.s. you and have you buy parts that you dont need or want for your goals.

X2^

I also purchased my 347 from him, along with a custom cam and canfield 195 heads from Jay Allen

[gmkillr]

X2^

I also purchased my 347 from him, along with a custom cam and canfield 195 heads from Jay Allen

When are you going to have your car on the dyno?
I cant wait to see some rwhp #'s for your combo!

[Pure Stock]

X2^

I also purchased my 347 from him, along with a custom cam and canfield 195 heads from Jay Allen

Any e.t.'s out of it?

[TJH64]

When are you going to have your car on the dyno?
I cant wait to see some rwhp #'s for your combo!

Well, I just talked to Jay today, it was a long wait getting the titanium retainers, so my heads will be completed tomorrow, then shipped to Fordstrokers so that Jim can install and set up my valvetrain. Hopefully I will get the engine next week. I spoke to Jeff at CRT about tuning around end of May.

Pure Stock, I'll post some ET's when complete!

[HidalgoGT]

Cool! Isnt he a great guy to talk to? He wont b.s. you and have you buy parts that you dont need or want for your goals.

Ya he was pretty cool he was haveing some boreing machine problems cussing up a storm pretty funny. Then hemade fun of dyno's and tuners a bit. Told me to buy a tweeker and do it myself. I am mechanicaly inclined but, to just go tune a new motor meh I'll pass leave up to those who know what they are doing lol.

[gmkillr]

Well, I just talked to Jay today, it was a long wait getting the titanium retainers, so my heads will be completed tomorrow, then shipped to Fordstrokers so that Jim can install and set up my valvetrain. Hopefully I will get the engine next week. I spoke to Jeff at CRT about tuning around end of May.

Pure Stock, I'll post some ET's when complete!

Sweet!! I was happy with the tuning I received from www.Lasotaracing.com
Don was great to deal with and he knows the 94-95 cars like the back of his hand since he has one. Let us know how it goes!!

[gmkillr]

Ya he was pretty cool he was haveing some boreing machine problems cussing up a storm pretty funny. Then hemade fun of dyno's and tuners a bit. Told me to buy a tweeker and do it myself. I am mechanicaly inclined but, to just go tune a new motor meh I'll pass leave up to those who know what they are doing lol.

Gotta love that Chicago accent!!

[HidalgoGT]

Gotta love that Chicago accent!!

Ok, Now that I have an idea what I am building. Few more opinions.
What tranny to run 5spd tko600 or would i be better off with a 6 spd? I shifted my 5 spd pretty well in my old gt. I know there isnt much difference shift wise.

Probaly gonna go with a set of canfield 212's raised exh port .400 now where to find headers.
AFR 205's are also a possibility.

Gear wise I figure i'll have to wait for the engine to be done and a rough power band to get a set to start out with. Guessing 3.73's 4.10's.

Clutch's? Ram? or others?