just wish there was more options
just wish there was more options
Originally Posted by fastfox91
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I seen reports of this last april and now it's finally out, better late than never I guess. If this would have been a republican you can bet the farm he would have been long gone. So what else does osama have in the closet, I beleive we will all find out soon enough
"No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in it's preservation"
General Douglas McArthur
Hell of a quote. Twin01Cobra must have ESP.I seen reports of this last april and now it's finally out, better late than never I guess. If this would have been a republican you can bet the farm he would have been long gone. So what else does osama have in the closet, I beleive we will all find out soon enough
Just when I thought he could not sink any lower, Obama screws the pooch.
Obama's speech today made comments about his white Grandmother being a racist by making racial slurs but he will not say his Rev Wright is a racist. Nothing like sending your "Flesh & Blood" down the river. I am sure she took care of him and fed him when he was little kid then the class-less bonehead makes negative comments about her to the whole WORLD!!
How could he do that to his OWN GRANDMOTHER???
I have never heard of any politician, white/black, male/female, Republican/Democrat make derogitory racial remarks about their own family to the entire world.
So much for the character for a man who wants to be the Leader of the Strongest and Greatest Nation in the world.
It must have been that 20 years of "Love" that was preached by Rev Wright in his church
Does he go to a church or a mosque?
HE has NO CLASS!
The word is spreading like wildfire. This Guy is DONE! Someone should be playing "taps " for him.
Sorry, he was never in the Military so "taps" is out of the question.....
Maybe it should be "Who let the DOGS OUT"
Can't stand Obama. Can't stand Clinton. We need to have Clinton win the nomination so McCain can have a cakewalk against her. Of the 3, I think he's the "best" choice - the least of the 3 evils...
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In all honesty, I CAN"T BELIEVE that an AMERICAN would vote for OBAMA. HE HAS GONE TO THIS RACIST, AMERICAN HATING, "CHURCH" FOR 20 YRS! NO MATTER WHAT HE SAYS NOW, HE HAS BELIEVED THE "PASTOR" ENOUGH TO CONTINUE TO ATTEND THERE FOR ALL THIS TIME.
[U]WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!HE IS BAD FOR AMERICA!!!!!!![/U]
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Amen Brother!
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sorry if someone already said it but, obama rhymes with osama... not a good ring in my ear.
If Americans werent tired of republicans in the white house, McCain would have a walk in the park in beating Hilary but im a registered republican and im tired of republicans!!! Hilary in '08 or at this point just as long as OBAMA doesnt get it in, i dont care who wins!!!! They're all crooks and oil tycoons! Filled my truck up today...$68 WTF!!!! im only 24yrs old and i remember gas being 89cents a gallon!!!! in that was ooo id say 9yrs ago!!!!! believe it or not everything is controlled in this country by fuel prices!!! gas is high....consumer spending is low!!! Its bout time the truckers go on strike and try to put an end to this ridiculous gouging!!! I pulled into the pumps the other day and a local logger was filling up his rig and i bout dropped over when i seen his fuel bill almost a grand in diesel fuel!!! how is he to live?? It's a shame so much money and soldiers lives were lost over a war that many americans dont even care what good we're doing over there! Should've blown them up...walked away and said...here's your hole in the ground...good bye! but that'll never happen!
~sorry for the rant....but im sure someone out there partially agrees with me!
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If you want to know how effective the mainstream media is, it is amazing how many people fall into the categories below that think Bush is screwing them and Clinton was the greatest President ever. If any Democrat is elected, they WILL repeal the Bush tax cuts. This is like the movie The Sting with Paul Newman; you scam somebody out of some money and they don't even know what happened.The freaking Democatic Senate/House just rejected the continuation of the Bush tax cuts. Obama might tell you that and he might even try to pass it, but it won't happen.
Based on using actual tax tables; http://www.taxfoundation.org/publications/show/151.html
here are some examples on what the taxes were/are on various incomes/filing status under Clinton and Bush:
Taxes under Clinton 1999 Taxes under Bush 2008
Single @ 30K Tax $8,400 Single @ 30K Tax $4,500
Single @ 50K Tax $14,000 Single @ 50K Tax $12,500
Single @ 75K Tax $23,250 Single @ 75K Tax $18,750
Married @ 60K Tax $16,800 Married @ 60K Tax $9,000
Married @ 75K Tax $21,000 Married @ 75K Tax $18,750
Married @ 125K Tax $38,750 Married @ 125K Tax $31,250
I don't know about you guys, but I like to keep more of my hard earned money. Just some food for thought.
Amen to that! Clinton was ( and his "wife" IS ) a complete disgrace to the Presidency in EVERY way!
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This is not directed to V6Mustang01 but everyone in general. I used his quote to explain some Economics 101.
GOOD CALL V6Mustang01! He actually recognized the Economic implications of gas prices. But there is more.
There are multiple reason the Middle East is being defended. One Reason is to disrupt/ take out the Terrorist who would like to kill everyone in our country. Freedom in this region is very important to keep the Economic effects to a minimum in the US. That leads to the next reason.
The other reason is to keep the region stable without disrupting the oil output. YES WE ARE FIGHTING FOR OIL!!! Not just oil in general but the catastrophic results that would result without oil.
Whether we like it or not, WE are dependant on the availability and the affordability of oil / fuel, either in the form of gasoline or heating oil. If the Middle East was not stable, excessive fuel interuptions would cause catastrophic results in this country. Oil / Gasoline is an economic indicator that affects us directly. When the price of gas is low, prices on all consumables (food, clothes etc) are lower. The extra saving we have from cheaper fuel prices results in people spending more money on consumables and luxury items. When the fuel price is up, consumer cash flow is limited to compensate for the extra resources needed to pay for fuel. The lack of cash flow cause the market to fluctuate and old guys like me watch our 401Ks, mutual funds / IRAs tank & loose their value. The domino effect continues because the higher price in fuel, aka higher shipping cost is recouped by higher prices for consumables. The cycle will keep repeating itself until the economy collapses.
Supply vs demand. Minimal supply and high demand would increase the prices in fuel x10. You think we pay high prices now, you have no idea how high gas could go. You and I would not be able to drive to work. Food prices would increase proportional to the fuel cost. We won't be able to afford to go to work and buy food. What do you all think would be the results of us not being able to buy food or heat your house? The basic middle class and lower class will starve and the social structure of our society would collapse. Society,as we know it, would be destroyed. The Ghetto would be a step up. We would be no different and probably worst then life in the Middle East. Are you all prepared to do that to your self, your friends and even your family? The social collapse will not discriminate by race, creed or color. Everyone in the US will be effected.
Stability in the Middle East is not a desired goal, it is the only goal.
Unless someone comes up with a "Magic Pill" we can put in our gas tanks and add water to for fuel, we are fighting in Iraq to take care of our families and our way of life. You all really got to understand the results of stability or the lack of stability in the middle east.
If you think I am blowing smoke, sell your car and walk everywhere. See how long that last. Try carrying grocerys a couple of miles or turn off your heat in the winter. Try walking miles to the doctors office or the hospital when your sick. That is what life would be like if the Middle East becomes unstable. It's a damn scary situation that can easily become everyday life if the Middle East collapses.
Quit listen to whiny liberals and use your heads. This is serious stuff.
More Food for thought. Have you ever seen a Democrat lower taxes and /or give a tax refund?
I have NEVER seen a Democrat get elected and not raise taxes. I repeat NEVER!! All the money we are told will go to the help the poor goes to make bigger goverment. If you want to help the poor, give it to them directly, not the government.
With gas prices higher, can you all afford higher taxes? I can't.
I don't think any of them are stong, but one thing I personally feel is that the president should have some military background. How can you lead a counrty you won't serve?
Excellent post Donstang86!!!Read this post.....multiple times, can't agree with you more.
democrats have to raise taxes because the republicans run the country into the ground
I'm all for the tax cuts for income tax refunds but when I have to take it all and put it in the gas tank what is the sense
That is exactly what bush wants you to do so he can keep fillin his pockets with your money you pay at the pump
As for making Iraq stable I don't remember Clinton having to make a war during his terms to keep the fuel situation stable.Seems to me gas was well within reason when he was in there
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I think more blame should be laid at the feet of the environmentalists who continually stop us from building more refineries, and drilling for more oil on OUR OWN soil. Guess which side they are on? Most certainly not republicans. Bush himself has nothing to do with oil prices (not saying he is a good president). I used to be a republican, when they were actually for limited government, lower taxes, and a strong military. Bush is not a real republican, he may as well be a democrat. Neither is McCain. I'm tired of voting for the lesser of two (or three) evils. I will be wasting my vote on the libertarian candidate in November. I can no longer vote republican with a clear conscience.
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Clinton was to busy playing hide the sausage with the interns so he had no time to take care of the growing problems. He played wag the dog and don't forget Somalia, that's his idea of taking care of business. You'll get your wish of higher taxes if the dems take over the whitehouse, heck you may even get national healthcare. Then at the end of the week when you get your paycheck you won't be getting much at all.
"No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in it's preservation"
General Douglas McArthur
This is an easy concept to accept because of how we have been exposed to this idealology over the years. It starts when we are little kids and are spoon fed these beiliefs by liberal instructors (the flower children of the 60's now grown up) who preach their political beliefs into our little head. The Communist educators in Russia also use the same academic protocol in their schools. Our liberal instructors preach the "Republicans are bad, Democrats are good" in different ways on a daily basis. It may be a direct statement or a reference to a joke on a Republican candidate or elected official. Liberal instructors, who are sheltered from the results of their misguided economic and political view in academia, have been doing this for years, ESPECIALLY IN COLLEGE.
The rhetoric continues to be dispursed in different forms. Watch some of the MTV sessions with the "Cool" Democratic candidates. Then you have some of the hollywood elite voice their political opinions, again in reference to the "Cool" Democratic candidates.
I saw the evidence of this the other day when I talked to one of my (girlfriend) daughter's friend. She said, "I hope Obama gets elected".
I then proceeded to ask her the question that most un-informed people and all liberals hate to hear........"WHY?
Her response was "My teachers tell us he is the good canidate and the other candidates, especially the Republican candidate, are bad". I continued to address the response using my effective and previously used one word interogation. I asked again "WHY"?
She said "The teachers all believe that Bush is bad and Obama is the only true good candidate". I did not have the heart to tell her Bush is not running again. The confusion of hearing the information she had was wrong would have made her head explode. The wrong information that she was told is typical of the stuff dished out by their instructors. It's really scary kids who have no idea about the struggles of everyday life are fed this crap. When everyone goes to college, it gets worst. These are the future leaders of this country who will be taking care of our old asses and they have no clue because of the misguided rhetoric they are force-fed at "Liberal High Schools" and "Acedemia U" College.
When you are young and idealistic, you will be a Democrat. I was. I even worked for a Union when I was going to school.
When you grow up and realize the effects of the Democratic idealology, you will change to Republican.
I replied to this post to voice my opinions on phony candidates named Obama and Clinton. This post has evolved into a Democratic vs Republican post. I will add to the evolution with a small part of the Republican picture.
Unless you all are some Bill Gates type who can start a business and turn into a multimillionare, we will all have to go work for a small business or large companies.
We will go to these companies and work for a specific pay.
The pay for the job you are performing (or interviewing for) is a result of the following:
1) Education level required to perform the job
2) Experience you have performing the job
3) (secret) What the local market is paying for people performing your job.
4) (secret) How many companies are available to compete for your services or the service of similar educated/experienced people.
If you do not think that number three & four don't come into the picture, you are dead wrong. Companies that do not want to pay people the going wage in their job range do not get people to work for them. That benefits US. This is explained in the next paragraph.
The general Republican concept of Economics is to limit government and taxes to allow business growth, AKA Capitalism. How does this effect you and I? If the tax structure for businesses is attractive (low taxes), Businesses will strive to start up in our area. If more businesses come to our area, there will be more available jobs. More jobs will require more people to fill them. If there are more companies that perform the functions that you and I are trained for, there will be competion for our services (supply vs demand again). What that means is item number three & four on my breakdown will benefit YOU AND I. Your services will be desireable. You will be offered more money and/or have opportunity to make more money. If you don't like where your working at, you can go somewhere down the road and make more money.
Who would benefit from that.... US!!!
We all want to make money right?
I know there will be people saying " The companies will make the money and not give us anything". That is true with some companies that have no vision. They will become a training facility for other companies. They will underpay people who will learn their profession and leave for more money. These type of companies have no long term vision and goals. They usually do not last long UNLESS the desire for their employees is low. That is explained in the next paragraph.
If the tax structure for businesses is unattractive (high taxes), Businesses will not want to start up in the area. If the businesses do not start up or close and start up in another state or country (We all have seen this) it will affect us directly. Our professional desireablity and the competition for our services will be diminished (items three & four). People will not make money, companies will treat us like crap because they know there is nowhere for us to go. We will take it and like it because their are no other options and/or opportunities available. That is why alot of people have to leave the state to make a life elsewhere instead of staying in Pittsburgh.
Democratic idealology goes after the companies, small and large, and limits the growth potential of the region by issuing a higher tax structure. Businesses will not want to come here. If the companies are not here, our services will not be need and our services will not be desireable/competative. We will not get paid what we should be paid for our education/experience. Thus this region will be full of upset. underpaid frustrated people who will long for anyword to hopefully lead them out of the darkness. You will need more government to take care of these people because they can not take care of themselves.
So instead of me asking the one worded question "WHY", I will ask what has the negative effects of the 8 Years been with a Republican President. High cost of GAS is not dependent on the administration but the Ragheads at "OPEC". The country is safer then it has been since the "Members of the Religion of Peace...Muslim" have been kept in check. Interest rates on housing is low enough where people can afford to buy a better house for less money every month. If you did not read one of my previous post regarding the Jimmy Carter era with 18% interest on mortgages.
Democratic idealology plays on the darkness of everyday life. "What would you do without us to take care of your pitiful asses". "We will save you from yourselves and you will like it".
Republican idealology plays on capitalism, smaller government, the growth potential of business and the growth of employees in everyday life from the results of the potential business growth.
My question to you all is "Do you need more government to take care of you?"
My answer is "NO". I am a adult and I am responsible for my actions and conduct in my life. I do not need more government to tell me what I should do and how I should live. That includes what I make and what property I have in my life.
For the record, I HATE Bush's policy on immigration. He is not perfect but better then a John Kerry and definitely better the Hillary/Obama.
So whoever you want to vote for, do not listen to just what they are saying. Do your homework and make an educated decision. Understand the goals and the limitations of the political party you choose.
When you are young, you can make a mistake or two and get away with the results. When your older, you can not afford to make a mistake. You all will learn this like I have.
I am DONSTANG86 and I approve this message!
Everyone needs to vote for McCain.
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