Still like Obama..?

[PunisherStang]

all i have to say is a famous quote from obahma on raw. "DO YOU SMELL WHAT OBAMHAS COOKIN?"

[Twin01cobra]

[QUOTE=Donstang86;101891]

First of all, my friend, that is my personal opinion, not what i was told.

Second, I appreciate your input but that does not mean i have to believe what you believe.

Third, I made no reference to any branch of the service and hold each of them in my highest respects.

Fourth, what i was taught in the matter was by a COLLEGE PROFESSOR who is PUBLISHED....but i guess he's wrong.

Yes, we all have opinions and we all can choose our opinions and beliefs.

You do not have to believe what I believe or anyone else. It's called being a responsible adult.

No, you made no reference to bashing any branch of the service...directly.

Bashing the United States bashes everyone, past & present who gave us the ability to sit here and pursue our dreams/desires.

Your first and fourth statement contradict each other.

Most people with similar outlooks have the same background that results in the same statements. You have been influenced by a "Programmer".

Understand the teachers/professors in Elementary, Junior High, High School and College were all students and hired by their institutions to perform a JOB. These are people who go from being a student to intern and then to instructor without leaving the safe walls of academia. The trials and tribulations of the real world were never a part of a majority of their lives. They do not see the results of their ideology. They use their position to disperse their politics into the young students who believe that the school/college is an idealistic institution. Most of the influence occurs in High School and college.

RULE #1 College is NOT an idealistic institution, it's a business, pure and simple. College is your means to an end and that is it. Your goal is to do the time, get the "sheep skin" and get a job when you graduate. Like all businesses, colleges have different levels of professionalism and ethics. The Rudy thing and Notre Dame is just for the movies.

Their business is straight forward. Get as much money from the students they can and hand you all the "paper" as a reward. They offer you a service and you pay the price for the service. And that service has to do with various core classes and my favorites,THE ELECTIVES.

Why do you think you take classes that have nothing to do with anything dealing with your degree? Which goes back to your professor. He was probably some Western Civ or Social Study class instructor. The fact he was published means nothing. There are Serial Killers who have memoirs published. Continue to rule #2.

RULE #2 High School College Teachers/Professors are not an idealistic individuals but people who are working a job. Their job is to provide an instructor which allows the college to make MONEY (remember Rule#1 the College is a business). Like businesses, the professionalism and ethics vary with these instructors. These are college employees who use their years of academia to accumulate data, formulate class outlines and disperse their acquired data. The fact that they are instructors does NOT give them the ability to perform what they are teaching you in real world applications. It's easy to sit there and make statements when the ramifications of your statements have no impact on your career or your life.

A sports analogy would be "The best players are not always the best Coaches (or Instructors)."

So now you are about 18-20 years old and enrolled in your college. Your visions of the college are idealistic and you look up to the instructor as being an ethical mentor who will help mold you into an intellectual member of society. You have no idea that Professor Needle-Dick is just an employee of a college with questionable ethics and/or agendas who has you right where he wants you. He can meet the requirements of his job, allow you to meet the necessary requirements to pass his class and go to the next level. But by doing that, he can use his position and stature to influence you with his opinions and agendas. You are young, bushy eyed and optimistic. You are there for the paper chase and have no idea what you are in-store for. You have no reason to doubt this person because you are at a fine institution with this highly educated instructor. Why would you doubt anything he/she has to say?
You are a captive audience and their agendas is dispersed into the daily routine. A little at first, then some jokes about the group they don't agree about. There is a group discussion and then you are given a project (that mirrors the discussion) to investigate an issue that has to be viewed on the format (and agenda) as your instructor. They will give you guidance on where to find the information and you will interact with them regarding the status of your assignment. If your status does not reflect the instructors agenda, he/she will take a hard line with you and send you back with another quest for research that is closer to the instructors real agenda. You will do what you are supposed to do because you are at your idealistic institution and meeting the requirements of your highly educated and (ugh) ethical instructor. You will believe the results of your project match your instructor guided source data so what you were taught/guided to must be the truth. You have now been Conditioned / Programmed by the instructor to mirror their ideology. And no one knew but the instructor. You get your class credits, you go to the next class with the idealology imbedded into your being. It's just like how a child molester brings in his victims. Pretty scary huh.

The Soviet Union uses similar techniques in the indoctrination of their children to inject their propaganda into the easily molded thoughts/heads of their children.

Bet I just described your Published Professor Needle-dick. The only thing he did not do at the completion of your class is yell "GOT YOU"

Not every instructor has distorted agendas. There are ethical instructors. If your instructor and/or future instructors match the description I gave, the chances are he/she is one of the "Programmers."

Students Beware!!!

So screw what you have been taught by this guy. Be part of the solution and not the problem. Be objective, do your homework. Facts are FACTS.

If America is full of lies, why do boatloads of Cubans and Mexicans risk their lives by trying to come to this country.

So what does this have to do with the election? The "Programmers" have been doing their deeds for years. This is how they reap their rewards. They influence people for the sole purpose of supporting their distorted idealology.

Don't let someone like him win. MAKE A DIFFERENCE!

But only you can make that decision.

My daughter goes to pitt and some of her teachers try to spew their liberal crap on her, but she knows better, after all she listened to me for 18 years. Most college proffesors are liberal turds, my daughter is there for an education to better her future, not to listen to some 5 head proffesor tell her what her veiws should be.

[phillysrt4]

Thats why i liked teaching math. The fundamental theorem of calculus wont change nomatter what political affiliation you espouse.

[Donstang86]

I was going to look at some listings on Craigs list. There in the upper left hand corner of the home page was a "politics" Icon. I clicked on it and started to read some of the post.

This thread is like kindergarden to the stuff some of those people are writing. Mostly it's Clinton vs Obama supporters bashing each other.

The Obama supporters were calling all the Democrats who voted for Hillary RACIST and knocking PA Democrats.

Calling Clinton Votes racist....

That is like calling the candidate Black.....

I mean like calling the kettle Black.

And now we have the Old Rev Wright getting back into the picture with the following:

"The blowing up of sermons preached 15, seven, six years ago and now becoming a media event, not the full sermon, but the snippets from the sermon ... having made me the target of hatred, yes, that is something very new," Wright told "Bill Moyers' Journal."

"I felt it was unfair. I felt it was unjust. I felt it was untrue. I felt — for those who were doing that — were doing it for some very devious reasons," he said.

In a March 18 speech in Philadelphia, Obama described the history of injustice that fueled Wright's comments, while also condemning his pastor's statements and acknowledging white resentment of African-Americans.

Asked his response to the senator's speech, Wright said, "He's a politician, I'm a pastor."

"I do what I do. He does what politicians do," Wright said. "What happened in Philadelphia, where he had to respond to the sound bites, he responded as a politician."

Wright said he has never heard Obama repeat any of the pastor's controversial statements as his own opinion. "No, no, no. Absolutely not," Wright said.



God, Osama Obama is a piece of work as is his side kick "Kato" Wright.
And the Obama supports just blindly keep supporting him. Incredible!

They should be called "O-BOTS"

[2001GTTT]

I dont support anyone, hence my decision to not vote. : )

[Donstang86]

[quote=stieny;101904]So you're comparing my higher education to pedophiles?

No, I compared the techniques used by the "Programmer" to a pedofile who "influences" young minds for their agenda.

I never made any comment regarding College being anything but a business and a means to an end, which is what it is.

[2001GTTT]

[quote=Donstang86;102145]

So you're comparing my higher education to pedophiles?

No, I compared the techniques used by the "Programmer" to a pedofile who "influences" young minds for their agenda.

I never made any comment regarding College being anything but a business and a means to an end, which is what it is.

You are exactly right when you say the "system" works and that people are programmed, you are programmed, the system has worked on you....OH, and college is a way to make more money in the future....fyi, thats why most people go.

[SAC81]

Outstanding post!

Your response showed no tangable content to allow anyone to understand what you are talking about.

So what are the lies? Be specific!

What are you using as a reference to determine what are the lies that America continuously has?

Was that what some liberal high school teacher taught you?

Memorizing a repeated agenda and spewing out a vague statement shows conditioning, not the ability to think.

The fact you are here being able to make such a clueless comment shows the system, that not always perfect, does work.

If this was one of the Communist / Socialist country's in the world, (you know the one's your liberal high school teacher told you that does not lie), a statement like that would cause a knock on your door at 3:00am and someone to disappear.

But this is the United States and the countless people over the years who died to protect your right to say what you want and even bash the country that allows you to be anything you want to be.

And even your right to make a statement and VOTE.

People can make the difference if they want to.

If you not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.

So anyone who does not vote, has no reason to say anything.

Just let people make your decisions for you. They will.

There is more in real life then the numbers on the gas pump and being able to polich a valve cover.

You'll figure it out one day.

[coralcoupe1993]

[quote=Twin01cobra;101968]

My daughter goes to pitt and some of her teachers try to spew their liberal crap on her, but she knows better, after all she listened to me for 18 years. Most college proffesors are liberal turds, my daughter is there for an education to better her future, not to listen to some 5 head proffesor tell her what her veiws should be.

Oh yea.....a lot of schools do that. I was saddened by the fact that there is a Young DNC union at Robert Morris. The best class I ever had at RMC/U was Free Market Economics with Ralph Ryland.

[2001GTTT]

Outstanding post!

glad you think so. you programmer!

sac81 were you in the service? j/w.

[Donstang86]

[quote=2001GTTT;102152]

You are exactly right when you say the "system" works and that people are programmed, you are programmed, the system has worked on you...

Here is the deal. You believe what you want to believe. You can listen to who ever you want.

You can vote or not vote.

You can say "America is full of lies"

Your choice and I don't care.

You are the one who has to be responsible for your life and future. Not me or anyone else.

Today's decisions will align your future. Your decisions and values may be different 10 years from now then they are now. Maybe in 10 years, you will find out your Professor was right on. Then again, maybe in 10 years
you'll find out he was dead wrong.

Your choice, your life, your problem.

Getting away from your "spin"

People are very concerned about this election because they are concerned with the real life impacts that they will deal with. When your young, the impacts of excessive taxation and poor political decisions have no impact on you. When you have a family and plan for a future you will understand the ramifications of political agenda you choose. When your older and you are thinking about retirement, you will really be concerned because poor decisions that were not corrected when you were young will take you out.

Does the impacts of life "program" you?

The answer is NO, LIFE smacks you upside the head and opens your eyes.

10 years from now you may see that better.

[2001GTTT]

[quote=Donstang86;102168]

Here is the deal. You believe what you want to believe. You can listen to who ever you want.

You can vote or not vote.

You can say "America is full of lies"

Your choice and I don't care.

You are the one who has to be responsible for your life and future. Not me or anyone else.

Today's decisions will align your future. Your decisions and values may be different 10 years from now then they are now. Maybe in 10 years, you will find out your Professor was right on. Then again, maybe in 10 years
you'll find out he was dead wrong.

Your choice, your life, your problem.

Getting away from your "spin"

People are very concerned about this election because they are concerned with the real life impacts that they will deal with. When your young, the impacts of excessive taxation and poor political decisions have no impact on you. When you have a family and plan for a future you will understand the ramifications of political agenda you choose. When your older and you are thinking about retirement, you will really be concerned because poor decisions that were not corrected when you were young will take you out.

Does the impacts of life "program" you?

The answer is NO, LIFE smacks you upside the head and opens your eyes.

10 years from now you may see that better.

Look, My intent was not to start a fight here, it was simply to state an opinion in a thread that is full of em, so i would appreciate you not talking down on me like I dont know anything. The reason i posted in this in the first place was just to show my claim that i dont like either candidate,possibly see someone who agrees, and maybe get some questions answered, which you have done . what i wanna know is...who are you voting for? and why?

[SV1000s]

Mickey Mouse 08

[2001GTTT]

Mickey Mouse 08

F**kin Right!

[speedracer]

Mickey Mouse 08

That's a better choice than the 3 clowns running now

[2001GTTT]

That's a better choice than the 3 clowns running now

Agreed!

[One Sweet Day]

I completely feel the same. There is no one worth my vote, however. I know who I do not want in the most, so I am going to vote in hopes of keeping them out. ;)

Donstang86, if you really believe your own post why are you getting on others about their opinons, beliefs, etc. To each their own. period. He obviously keeps well enough informed if he knows that each of the candidates suck.

Mickey Mouse for the FTW!!!

[Hawkeye]

Simpson/Flanders 08

[coralcoupe1993]

Mickey Mouse 08

Is he racist?

[2001GTTT]

Is he racist?

HELL NO! His first cartoon was in black and white! haha