Why was PRP closed this weekend?

[gmkillr]

A nicer track in your eyes, the track goes up hill. If PRP went up hill people would complain about that and why they don't fix it.

As for the B.S. QCR has more then all the tracks in PA put together. Why do you think QCR is fighting just to stay open. If you knew anything about QCR you wouldn't have made that comment. I'm not gonna say anything bad about QCR though because I also consider them a local track and will support them and hope they they also say open.

Please don't tell me you "think" prp is nicer than QCR? What's so appealing about it to you? Is it the gravel? The great Customer service? The constant cancellations? Please tell me...
I've been to both tracks countless times and I will choose QCR any day of the week over prp even though it's slower, so what does that say about prp?
A few years ago I went to QCR for a t&t and for some odd reason I drove up on a thursday, which was a big airhead move on my part because there t&t is on Friday. Anyway, I get there and nobody is racing and it was a nice day so I was like WTF? I pull up to the main building and the office manager (Rhonda) comes out and says may I help you? I say aren't you guys running t&t today? She then says we are running it tommorow (Friday), I then realize I was mistaken on what day of the week it was and tell her that I guess i'll be back tommorow then. She says hold on 1 sec. and runs in the office, and comes back out with 3 free passes for T&T nights since I went through all of the trouble of driving there. Now thats customer service! Do you believe that prp would ever do anything of this magnitude? prp would tell you to fug off and leave....

[Jivepepper]

I went to QCR for a t&t and for some odd reason I drove up on a thursday, which was a big airhead move on my part because there t&t is on Friday. Anyway, I get there and nobody is racing and it was a nice day so I was like WTF? I pull up to the main building and the office manager (Rhonda) comes out and says may I help you? I say aren't you guys running t&t today? She then says we are running it tommorow (Friday), I then realize I was mistaken on what day of the week it was and tell her that I guess i'll be back tommorow then. She says hold on 1 sec. and runs in the office, and comes back out with 3 free passes for T&T nights since I went through all of the trouble of driving there. Now thats customer service! Do you believe that prp would ever do anything of this magnitude? prp would tell you to fug off and leave....

Well prp gave me a free pass on the last day of last year, because we were rained out. I hope they honor it this year.

[phillysrt4]

I look at life on the postive side but we all aren't the same. I was always taught to worry about the plank in my on eye before I worry about the splinter in someone elses.

I'll let you know when I own my own track so that metaphor can apply.

[gmkillr]

I'll let you know when I own my own track so that metaphor can apply.

LOL!!!

[Balaska347]

I'll let you know when I own my own track so that metaphor can apply.

Why do you have to own your own track for it to apply? It means worry about fixing your own problems instead of others.

I would like to see you guys operate the track. I can just see it now free TNT and run all night until everyone gets ten runs. You'll be be in business for about a week. Actually I think the track is looking for someone maybe you should apply so I can see how its done.

GMkiller everyone I know was getting free passes because the place was doing whatever they could to get business. And come on the whole stone thing, hasn't that horse been beat to death already .

Why do you go to PRP if it is that bad. Take your business else where because there are plenty of us that love the track. I know what direction it is heading in so I will support it. When PRP is top of the line dont come running back. Don't even spectate because no one wants hear you cry while we are enjoying the track and what it has to offer. Maybe they will give you some cheese when you come through the gate.

It's funny that PRP is in all kinds of magazines for taking huge steps forward and where it is heading. And the guys who bring their $200,000 racecars have nothing but good things to say but the PRO TNT guy with his mustang it isn't good enough

[2001GTTT]

so dumb to even fight about anyway.....i think john just wanted an answer to his question.....

[phillysrt4]

so dumb to even fight about anyway.....i think john just wanted an answer to his question.....

there's no fighting. everyone is just explaining their points of view.

[phillysrt4]

Why do you have to own your own track for it to apply? It means worry about fixing your own problems instead of others.

In the most general sense, the only way it would apply would be if I owned a business, ANY business, and cared more about PRP's problems than i would my own business.

Why do you go to PRP if it is that bad. Take your business else where because there are plenty of us that love the track.

I don't go to PRP. The last straw was their announcer being rude, condescending and unprofessional the last time I was there. Since that happened, I haven't been back.

I know what direction it is heading in so I will support it. When PRP is top of the line dont come running back. Don't even spectate because no one wants hear you cry while we are enjoying the track and what it has to offer.

This to me is a contradiction. IF it is true that they realize their past ways arent the way to run a track, and IF they are making strides to go in the right direction, why not support it? Why not spectate? I said before that you need to vote with your dollar, and a return to PRP and giving them my money would be the way to say "i like what you're doing and im glad to be back".

But actions speak louder than words and the season is too early for those IF's to come to pass in my book.

It's funny that PRP is in all kinds of magazines for taking huge steps forward and where it is heading. And the guys who bring their $200,000 racecars have nothing but good things to say but the PRO TNT guy with his mustang it isn't good enough

are you laughing at the truth of this or in disbelief? I can't tell, but I assure you the reality is the former.

Of course they're going to fawn and go gaga over a $200 grand racecar that shows up. That car is getting press, and thus indirectly theres a good chance PRP is going to get a free plug or two here and there if that driver has a positive experience. However, a TNT guy with a mustang is dime a dozen (not trying to be offensive just that the mustang is one of the best selling cars of all time so there's just a lot of them out there). You can bet that PRP is going to bust out the kneepads far quicker for the 200k car than the TNT mustang.

its just smart business to cater to that type of clientelle, but thinking you have carte blanche to crap on everyone else isnt.

[Pure Stock]

I liked it a whole hell of a lot better when it was Keystone Raceway.

[HidalgoGT]

I liked it a whole hell of a lot better when it was Keystone Raceway.

Ahh, those were the days..............................

[Cam99]

And the guys who bring their $200,000 racecars have nothing but good things to say but the PRO TNT guy with his mustang it isn't good enough

Because the guy that brings his 200,000 racecar isn't treated with contempt. In fact if a guy with any type of "racecar" happens to show up at a T&T he is shown the royal treatment and the entire event is put on hold, while the two hundred lowly streetcars that just wasted 30 bucks (35 if you get a hotdog) are forced to wait and hope they manage to make a couple passes before the night is over. PRP sucks, bottom line. Do people still go there, sure, it's a necessary evil sometimes. I'm sure I'll end up going there and it'll suck and I'll tell myself I'm not going back, and I'll end up going next year to repeat the process. I used to be there at least two times a month , but over time with the terrible experience it ends up bieng I go once a year anymore. I'm going to a track rental at QCR in May. Will I run my best numbers, nope, but it's worth it to me to have an enjoyable time.

[gmkillr]

Why do you have to own your own track for it to apply? It means worry about fixing your own problems instead of others.

I would like to see you guys operate the track. I can just see it now free TNT and run all night until everyone gets ten runs. You'll be be in business for about a week. Actually I think the track is looking for someone maybe you should apply so I can see how its done.

GMkiller everyone I know was getting free passes because the place was doing whatever they could to get business. And come on the whole stone thing, hasn't that horse been beat to death already .

Why do you go to PRP if it is that bad. Take your business else where because there are plenty of us that love the track. I know what direction it is heading in so I will support it. When PRP is top of the line dont come running back. Don't even spectate because no one wants hear you cry while we are enjoying the track and what it has to offer. Maybe they will give you some cheese when you come through the gate.

It's funny that PRP is in all kinds of magazines for taking huge steps forward and where it is heading. And the guys who bring their $200,000 racecars have nothing but good things to say but the PRO TNT guy with his mustang it isn't good enough

This is a thread about racetracks not a joke thread........
I'm not even going to respond to this b.s.
Please wake up, will you?

[gmkillr]

PRP sucks, bottom line. I'm going to a track rental at QCR in May. Will I run my best numbers, nope, but it's worth it to me to have an enjoyable time.

That about sums it up right there!
I actually have my best 60' time @ QCR, my best E.T. @ QCR but I do MPH better at prp.

[casper gt]

like I said before if you want lots of runs go on race day 2 time trials 1st round mabie more. and why wouldnt they cater to race cars? its a buisness and racers that come up week in and week out pay the bills not the ocasional(or pro?) tnt guy that comes you 1-2 times a year. I race every single race day but very seldom go to tnt because of all the B.S. like no one being with their car & holding the lanes up, bringing mud up to starting line & my personal pet peeve ice on intake(which melts onto motor & ends up on starting line). so why not give a regluar race day a try & see how diffrent it is. otherwise I second Balaska 347 if you only want to bitch go somewhere else we dont need it up there.

[2001GTTT]

I like prp because its close but the staff could be better and track prep could be better, not here to complain just adding some suggestions.

[Cam99]

second Balaska 347 if you only want to bitch go somewhere else we dont need it up there.

Of course you do.

[Jivepepper]

They only compliant I have is that I'm treated like crap everytime I go. Plus it would be nice if the track wasn't closed everytime it rains a day or two before track day because of bad drainage.

This track is 90 miles each way for me. The next closest Is 189 miles away at MD. I have no idea how far QSC is?

[u1arunit]

like I said before if you want lots of runs go on race day 2 time trials 1st round mabie more. and why wouldnt they cater to race cars? its a buisness and racers that come up week in and week out pay the bills not the ocasional(or pro?) tnt guy that comes you 1-2 times a year. I race every single race day but very seldom go to tnt because of all the B.S. like no one being with their car & holding the lanes up, bringing mud up to starting line & my personal pet peeve ice on intake(which melts onto motor & ends up on starting line). so why not give a regluar race day a try & see how diffrent it is. otherwise I second Balaska 347 if you only want to bitch go somewhere else we dont need it up there.

Looking at it from a business perspective they make WAY MORE money with hundreds of TnT cars showing up than the few racers in those classes who show up "regularly".

So you race there all the time. SO what. That does not make your opinion any more important than anyone else on here so step down off your high horse. It seems you are too high up there to see the reality at PRP.

[Killercanary]

like I said before if you want lots of runs go on race day 2 time trials 1st round maybe more. and why wouldnt they cater to race cars? its a buisness and racers that come up week in and week out pay the bills not the ocasional(or pro?) tnt guy that comes you 1-2 times a year. I race every single race day but very seldom go to tnt because of all the B.S. like no one being with their car & holding the lanes up, bringing mud up to starting line & my personal pet peeve ice on intake(which melts onto motor & ends up on starting line). so why not give a regluar race day a try & see how diffrent it is. otherwise I second Balaska 347 if you only want to bitch go somewhere else we dont need it up there.

I can't stop laughing at this post!!! I tried your "come up one race day" suggestion and it was the WORST day I have ever, and I repeat EVER experienced at PRP. I got one, read again ONE run in 10hrs of being at the track. Surprised? I'm not, its the typical bull shit they do up there. I witnessed the "pro" drag cars get more runs. Hell, i know GMKILLR experienced the same exact thing. This day really sticks out in my head as it was the first, and last time, my grandmother had come out to the track to see my dad and I race. After several hours of sitting around with no hope in site of getting any runs in my mom took her home. I will NEVER go back on a race day, I can promise you that.


And your comment about racers paying the bills is total bull shit. For four years straight I NEVER missed a TNT. I was the first car down the track on opening day and I didn't miss until they shut the lights out on the last day of the season. There were MANY others just like me, hell how do you think a lot of us know each other on here??? Most of us met at Keystone/PRP on TNT nights because most of us were ALWAYS there. Let's see, what day would be more profitable.... a day where you have 300 cars show up for TNT where there are NO payouts what-so-ever, or a raceday with less cars where you are giving payouts. TNT is what really helps keep the lights on, but you sound like them and don't understand that all too important point.


And now that I'm venting... people can say all they want about the old Keystone days when the Gentiles owned it. I can tell you that I'd take that track and personnel any day of the week. I was treated well, and a little rain never stopped racing. I can't tell you how many times I, along with the other guys at TNT were out lapping the track with our cars to get the track dry! There was none of this "well it rained 3 days ago and it may rain next week so we're closed BS." I raced there for YEARS and it was never the issue it is now. I don't know by them stepping off the hillside if that caused drainage issues that are now a bigger problem than they were before or what, but for the money that has supposedly been sunk into that place you'd think some engineering would have gone into it and addressed this potential problem.

I think it speaks volumes that my dad and I NEVER, and I do mean NEVER missed TNT from '98-2002 but when it became PRP and we saw the way we were treated we've all but stopped attending. I think he and I were there twice last year. We really did have high hopes for the track when we heard it was sold and the new owners were going to fix up the place as I do admit it needed renovating, but we were sad to see that the level of service to the patrons went way downhill with it.

I do appreciate that we stll have a local track available to us, but unless their attitudes change I'll continue to travel a few times a year to places like Cecil, E-town, and Mason Dixon before I'll be a regular like I once was at PRP.

[Killercanary]

Anyone remember this? LOL!