Why was PRP closed this weekend?

**Stangman701** · 04-16-2008, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by phillysrt4

i like it, but also the number of runs should be scaled based on the number of cars. If 400 cars showed up I dont know if you could get 4 runs in a TnT even if no one breaks.

True, but if 400 cars show up they can afford to pay the guys overtime to stay late for those that want to get in 4 runs.

**phillysrt4** · 04-16-2008, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by Stangman701

True, but if 400 cars show up they can afford to pay the guys overtime to stay late for those that want to get in 4 runs.

makes sense.

**u1arunit** · 04-16-2008, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by Stangman701

One thing I would like to see implemented, and I know this is a dream, would be something like a 4 run minumum on TNT night. I know there are breakdowns that are beyond the tracks control, but what they can control is the clean up time. They know they're going home at a certain time regardless of how long it takes them to clean up so they don't really care how long it takes. If there was a 4 run minumum then they would be busting their ass to clean up quickly so they could still go home on time. Then if for some reason you can't get 4 runs in a reasonable amout of time then there should at least be a prorated refund. So say if you pay $20 to run and you only get in 3 runs then you should get $5 back on your way out. I think a policy like this would do wonders for the track's business and reputation

I agree. If I cannot get in at least 4 runs it's not worth the 1 1/2 hour drive time to go there.

This is why I like track rentals and wish we would have more.

**somethingclever** · 04-16-2008, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by u1arunit

This is why I like track rentals and wish we would have more.

If you host it....they will come.

**GOT SVT** · 04-16-2008, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by somethingclever

If you host it....they will come.

wish this was true

**gmkillr** · 04-16-2008, 01:27 PM

Quaker City Raceway

www.quakercityraceway.com

None of the b.s. that prp has, and a much nicer track that doesn't have gravel all over the place.

**u1arunit** · 04-16-2008, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by somethingclever

If you host it....they will come.

You host it and I will attend. There, that was easy huh..?

**somethingclever** · 04-16-2008, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by u1arunit

You host it and I will attend. There, that was easy huh..?

Too late..you volunteered first.

**Gastrader1** · 04-16-2008, 03:37 PM

Been there done that, won't do that again....... PJ is 100% correct, have one and HOPE they come.

**u1arunit** · 04-16-2008, 03:56 PM

Yep Mikey Mustang used to do track rentals and it seemed that while everyone wanted to go initially, when it came time to pay and show up the turn out was less than expected.

**Balaska347** · 04-16-2008, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by gmkillr

Quaker City Raceway

www.quakercityraceway.com

None of the b.s. that prp has, and a much nicer track that doesn't have gravel all over the place.

A nicer track in your eyes, the track goes up hill. If PRP went up hill people would complain about that and why they don't fix it.

As for the B.S. QCR has more then all the tracks in PA put together

. Why do you think QCR is fighting just to stay open. If you knew anything about QCR you wouldn't have made that comment. I'm not gonna say anything bad about QCR though because I also consider them a local track and will support them and hope they they also say open.

**casper gt** · 04-16-2008, 05:54 PM

for ever one who is worried about the # of runs you get why dont you come on race days? you will get 2 time trials for shure & first round. 3 runs & more depending on how long you stay in.

**phillysrt4** · 04-16-2008, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by Balaska347

A nicer track in your eyes, the track goes up hill. If PRP went up hill people would complain about that and why they don't fix it.

to be fair, having a slight uphill isn't the same problem as PRP's 1000-foot mark issue, in that QCR's hill doesn't close the track due to rain 5 days before (exaggeration but you get my point).

It makes slower times, thats about it.

Originally Posted by Balaska347

As for the B.S. QCR has more then all the tracks in PA put together

.

Really? granted I only raced there once, but the one time I did go, the staff was very friendly in getting me oriented, the cleanup for the broken car happened pretty fast, tech was straightforward, and the announcer had a positive jovial attitude whether you ran 10's or 18's. His announcing during the junior dragster "pinks" race was pretty funny too.

Maybe that day was an exception to the rule, but overall it was a better experience than any I had at PRP by far.

Originally Posted by Balaska347

Why do you think QCR is fighting just to stay open.

if i had to make a guess, it would be due to the competition of so many tracks in a relatively small area and the fact that its a slower track due to the aforementioend uphill. many people run TnT to get timeslips, not necessarily test and tune. Thats going to chase a lot of people away to other tracks if they're running a YY.00 to YY.1X because they know they'll drop down a second at another track.

I spoke to a couple of other people and they said the day was quite crowded, yet I got 4 runs in and could have had 2 more if I wanted. that says something about the attendence level versus PRP.

**HidalgoGT** · 04-16-2008, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by Balaska347

A nicer track in your eyes, the track goes up hill. If PRP went up hill people would complain about that and why they don't fix it.

As for the B.S. QCR has more then all the tracks in PA put together

. Why do you think QCR is fighting just to stay open. If you knew anything about QCR you wouldn't have made that comment. I'm not gonna say anything bad about QCR though because I also consider them a local track and will support them and hope they they also say open.

I see it this way. If we all went to QCR like we do PRP we would be doing the same thing. We pick out the flaws whatever they may be. It more or less isnt anything personal. Though When one of the tedesco clan was a member of the sight he was less then understanding at times. Not saying I am a great people person cause I'm not. It boils down to a complaint department for us to vent our frustrations about how things are. Like mew complaining about the street car shootout. From what you say its fixed as I havent been there in 2-2.5 years. That is a good thing. I wouldn't take it so personal.

**MustangMike** · 04-16-2008, 07:41 PM

What's up guys? I haven't been on here in a long time...kinda funny...I just signed on to see what was happening at the local tracks this spring...dreweling because I don't have a car to race anymore.

Anyway...I'm not surprised at all by what I'm reading. My biggest issue with them, and always has been, it would not be so difficult to deal with their "issues" if they took a single step toward making their customers feel welcome. That would include making exceptions when crazy things happen. Big break down that wipes the track out? Keep everyone there and let them get an extra run, even if it means staying open for a half hour LONGER. Don't call the damn night off at 8:30-9:00 and tell everyone that cleanup will take too long. Ever been to Norwalk and even QCR when things get tied up unexpectedly? They will often times (not always) run the cars late until people start leaving!!! Also - why is it that most every time the name tedesco comes up, there is somehow a confrontational tone involved? I've never heard them or heard OF them being the least bit interested in making people happy. Most often it's a total smart ass attitude that you get...and to me, for my money (watching or racing), it's not worth it. I would be more than happy to put up with the bs and the few runs if I felt like they at least made an ATTEMPT at customer satisfaction. Isn't that what business is all about?!?!?!?!?!?

Good luck to you guys this season - hope to see you out there soon!

**Gastrader1** · 04-16-2008, 09:03 PM

The best thing that could ever happen to PRP is "Abbott and Costello" sell the track, they are two of the most unprofessional business people that I know. I have put on track rentals at PRP and QCR, and dealing with QCR is very easy, PRP is another story for sure. Nothing will change if current ownership stays at PRP, it is all smoke and mirrors. If my memory is correct, do they not own a heavy construction business? If so spread a little gravel and your mud problem goes away. Thats right, they don't care about making it a nice place.

**casper gt** · 04-16-2008, 09:54 PM

is QCR in buisness this week?

**phillysrt4** · 04-16-2008, 11:04 PM

Originally Posted by casper gt

is QCR in buisness this week?

Opening Day April 5th was a great turn out of racers and the weather was warm. The excitment of loud exhaust and the smell of burning rubber is back! Everyone was excited to make their first runs of the year.

So id say they're open, yes.

**Balaska347** · 04-17-2008, 12:51 AM

I'm also big on customer satisfaction and when I'm there (racedays) I don't see a problem with it. Maybe I should start going to more TNT to see what everyone is talking about because what I did notice is the guys that stick up for the track are usually regular racers and the guys that complain are TNT guys. I get treated great and I didn't know the Tedescos from Bob down the street I just made a point to. And I do agree the announcer is ignorant at times. Anyway we can go on and on...

I look at life on the postive side but we all aren't the same. I was always taught to worry about the plank in my on eye before I worry about the splinter in someone elses.

My car is almost done hopefully by next week if everything goes well, and I will be going up to TNT next saturday. I would like to meet some of you guys up there if anyone is planning on going up.