Why was PRP closed this weekend?

[gmkillr]

Anyone remember this? LOL!

Amen to that my brother!

PRP is my last resory and even then It's still hard for me to give them my money!

[somethingclever]

like I said before if you want lots of runs go on race day 2 time trials 1st round mabie more. and why wouldnt they cater to race cars? its a buisness and racers that come up week in and week out pay the bills not the ocasional(or pro?) tnt guy that comes you 1-2 times a year. I race every single race day but very seldom go to tnt because of all the B.S. like no one being with their car & holding the lanes up, bringing mud up to starting line & my personal pet peeve ice on intake(which melts onto motor & ends up on starting line). so why not give a regluar race day a try & see how diffrent it is. otherwise I second Balaska 347 if you only want to bitch go somewhere else we dont need it up there.

The only thing good about regular race days is the track prep is just slightly better than TnT nights....but that is the ONLY thing better.


FWIW I probably raced close to 15 TnT's last yr and saw mostly the same cars each time I was there. The street car lanes are always, and have always been, packed. To say they dont' pay the bills is LAUGHABLE at best.

It seems like the younger workers are always pleasant...there are a few older guys that need an attitude adjustment. If they don't like their job, they need to go work somewhere else because we dont' need their bad attitude up there.


Plus, just because people express their complaints about the track does not mean they shouldn't ever go back. Have you ever complained about your job? Did you go back the next day?

[Balaska347]

Ok first off anyone that hasn't been to the track lately or said they haven't been back since shouldn't even be posting because changes get made all the time.

Second I agree that certain employees have bad atittudes and it is bad business even if it is only towards tnt guys. If it was me I would fire them but it is so hard to get good employees because the jobs sucks.

CAM99 whats wrong with casper gt agreeing with me. Is it because he isn't part of the big circle jerk on here?

This thing about TNT cars being where the money is at goes to show how much you guys know. For one, TNT gets an average of 150 cars not 300. Regular race days gets an average of 250 cars. Yes they do pay out but we pay for that in entry. But wait, the big money comes from sponserships which is for the weekly racers and the big shows on racedays. PRP isn't stupid if TNT was bringing in the big bucks they would be on it trust me.

Preping the track on a tnt is just retarded. The first car to go down the track with street tires just eats it right off anyway. Plus a street tire will hook better on the asphalt in front of your house compared to the track with VHT. VHT is actually greasy with a hard street tire. If your not running a street tire run with the slick cars and if you can't hook that your fault.

The Gentiles are great people and they did great with what they had to work with. Was anyone complaining back then when the street car lanes consisted of dirt, ruts, and rocks or can't you remember that. And yes the water issues came because the big grassy field that is now asphalt and gravel. And when they put more asphalt down it will get worse.

It all boils down to the fact that you guys are sore because no one gives two $hits about TNT. Trying to say the track sucks and it has stones is just your way of dealing with it. For you guys to arguing that the track is terrible and won't go anywhere are talking nonsense. I can give you a list a mile long on improvements but I won't waste my time. You can lead the horse to the watering hole but you can't make it drink. I know Philly technically it doesn't work :D.

Like I said the only point I agree with is the poor atittude employees or management give to TNT.
Why not go buy a G Tech or something and run your car up and down the road all day long. Then you can tell your buddy you just ran your best ET.

[phillysrt4]

Ok first off anyone that hasn't been to the track lately or said they haven't been back since shouldn't even be posting because changes get made all the time.

I disagree. Those who tell stories about their experiences simply confirm not much has changed.

CAM99 whats wrong with casper gt agreeing with me. Is it because he isn't part of the big circle jerk on here?

The same "circle jerk" mentality could be said of those who are blindly pro prp nomatter what (not saying you are in that group but there are those like this on both sides).

And I dont see how Cam's, u1arunit's or my criticism constitutes a "circle jerk" anyway.

Like I said the only point I agree with is the poor atittude employees or management give to TNT.

which is far worse than not giving 2 sh1ts.

Why not go buy a G Tech or something and run your car up and down the road all day long. Then you can tell your buddy you just ran your best ET.

You know, considering that the prices of them have come down, they use 3 axis accelerometers, and they've improved their integration software a lot makes it very tempting. The downsides to G Tech's are that no one takes the times seriously because installation error can inflate times, but more importantly that you have to run on the streets which in general isn't a good idea. Although I do get into the occasional street battle, I have a strong preference to being at a track.

[HidalgoGT]

You know, considering that the prices of them have come down, they use 3 axis accelerometers, and they've improved their integration software a lot makes it very tempting. The downsides to G Tech's are that no one takes the times seriously because installation error can inflate times, but more importantly that you have to run on the streets which in general isn't a good idea. Although I do get into the occasional street battle, I have a strong preference to being at a track.

I had one from a friend one time and pulled up to a certain old time favorite raceing area and just got done setting it up to take off when i heard a pa system say "Move Along Now" lookedin my rear view and was two state boy's. I was so nervous I pulled off the road they went by.

[Jivepepper]

It seems like the younger workers are always pleasant...there are a few older guys that need an attitude adjustment. If they don't like their job, they need to go work somewhere else because we dont' need their bad attitude up there.

I know the younger guys are cool the older ones are the aholes. I went about 8-9 times last year myself. Most of the year the lights didn't even work. Prp was the first time to a drag strip.

[phillysrt4]

I had one from a friend one time and pulled up to a certain old time favorite raceing area and just got done setting it up to take off when i heard a pa system say "Move Along Now" lookedin my rear view and was two state boy's. I was so nervous I pulled off the road they went by.

whew!!

and to think getting it set up a few minutes sooner may have meant a nasty ticket!

[u1arunit]

Okay I have wasted enough time reading and posting in this terrible waste of a thread.

Just one more thought though first:

PRP lovers are nut huggers and we the Haters are Circle Jerks. :flipoff:

Got it everyone..?

Good.

[Jivepepper]

What if I want hang on nuts and circle jerk?

[INSANELY CRAZY]

What if I want hang on nuts and circle jerk?

everyone has/wants there own way...

this thread was locked last night, what happened mark did you wanna see/read more???? LOL

[cam303]

A lot of this bitching sounds like excuses to not race your cars.....lol

It is what it is guys. Whining on here isnt going to change it.

[Martin0660]

It is what it is guys. Whining on here isnt going to change it.

I have stayed away from this thread, but Cam probably nailed my opinion here as well.

Bob Myers

[u1arunit]

everyone has/wants there own way...

this thread was locked last night, what happened mark did you wanna see/read more???? LOL

I locked it but Lou must have opened it back up.

He actually likes DRAMA.

So..

[Pure Stock]

I can't stop laughing at this post!!! I tried your "come up one race day" suggestion and it was the WORST day I have ever, and I repeat EVER experienced at PRP. I got one, read again ONE run in 10hrs of being at the track. Surprised? I'm not, its the typical bull shit they do up there. I witnessed the "pro" drag cars get more runs. Hell, i know GMKILLR experienced the same exact thing. This day really sticks out in my head as it was the first, and last time, my grandmother had come out to the track to see my dad and I race. After several hours of sitting around with no hope in site of getting any runs in my mom took her home. I will NEVER go back on a race day, I can promise you that.


And your comment about racers paying the bills is total bull shit. For four years straight I NEVER missed a TNT. I was the first car down the track on opening day and I didn't miss until they shut the lights out on the last day of the season. There were MANY others just like me, hell how do you think a lot of us know each other on here??? Most of us met at Keystone/PRP on TNT nights because most of us were ALWAYS there. Let's see, what day would be more profitable.... a day where you have 300 cars show up for TNT where there are NO payouts what-so-ever, or a raceday with less cars where you are giving payouts. TNT is what really helps keep the lights on, but you sound like them and don't understand that all too important point.


And now that I'm venting... people can say all they want about the old Keystone days when the Gentiles owned it. I can tell you that I'd take that track and personnel any day of the week. I was treated well, and a little rain never stopped racing. I can't tell you how many times I, along with the other guys at TNT were out lapping the track with our cars to get the track dry! There was none of this "well it rained 3 days ago and it may rain next week so we're closed BS." I raced there for YEARS and it was never the issue it is now. I don't know by them stepping off the hillside if that caused drainage issues that are now a bigger problem than they were before or what, but for the money that has supposedly been sunk into that place you'd think some engineering would have gone into it and addressed this potential problem.

I think it speaks volumes that my dad and I NEVER, and I do mean NEVER missed TNT from '98-2002 but when it became PRP and we saw the way we were treated we've all but stopped attending. I think he and I were there twice last year. We really did have high hopes for the track when we heard it was sold and the new owners were going to fix up the place as I do admit it needed renovating, but we were sad to see that the level of service to the patrons went way downhill with it.

I do appreciate that we stll have a local track available to us, but unless their attitudes change I'll continue to travel a few times a year to places like Cecil, E-town, and Mason Dixon before I'll be a regular like I once was at PRP.

I couldn't of said it better!

[casper gt]

wow I thought ricers sucked,you "profesional"? tnt guys are the biggest cry babies Ive ever had the misfortune of dealing with. 300 car test & tune? never happen especially not back in the Gentille days you couldnt fit that many cars at the track. as far as stepping the hillside causing drainage problems that may or may not be true but they needed to do it to make more pit spots for how many more cars come up now.have you ever looked up there & saw how packed it is? the old keystone could never draw that many cars. I remember 1995 in particular we had a hard time getting 16 cars together for the bracket finals ( did I mention we won the bracket finals last year? not bad for such a crappy track huh) thats about all I have to say about this other than its called a race track because people go there to race, tnt's are to work out the bugs in your race car. if all you want is a time slip why dont you wait out side the gate I'm shure some one will sell you one & your buddies at Dairy Queen will never know the difference.

[gmkillr]

Hey when QCR gets 300+ cars on t&t nights you still get a minimum of 4 runs in........
You can't unlearn stupid guys........Some people will never learn........

[Ares]

[Jivepepper]

wow I thought ricers sucked,you "profesional"? tnt guys are the biggest cry babies Ive ever had the misfortune of dealing with. 300 car test & tune? never happen especially not back in the Gentille days you couldnt fit that many cars at the track. as far as stepping the hillside causing drainage problems that may or may not be true but they needed to do it to make more pit spots for how many more cars come up now.have you ever looked up there & saw how packed it is? the old keystone could never draw that many cars. I remember 1995 in particular we had a hard time getting 16 cars together for the bracket finals ( did I mention we won the bracket finals last year? not bad for such a crappy track huh) thats about all I have to say about this other than its called a race track because people go there to race, tnt's are to work out the bugs in your race car. if all you want is a time slip why dont you wait out side the gate I'm shure some one will sell you one & your buddies at Dairy Queen will never know the difference.

They cussed at me and even used the f bomb towards me because I couldn't hear them. I was the first one in the staging lane. I did my run and got my slip. I was returning to the lane. The guy that works the lanes thought the gap between me and last car still waiting to run was not large enough. He screams at me not to move my f'ing car any more even though there were several car links between us. I was new and had know idea what the hell i was doing. I was so pissed at the the time I wanted get out and beat his ass. I did nothing that constituted getting treated that way.

I know that they can't control the weather, accidents, break downs, etc. But they should get a handle on their staff.

Not to mention the announcers condescending attitude and tone.

There's nothing wrong with racing for time slips and comparing them later, it's just another way of competing.

I test and tune my street car before and after modding in a safe enviroment. The TNT's are not just for bracket racers.

Like I said my biggest complaint is the rude staff. Nothing like spending 90-100 just to be cussed.

Who comes to see national events? Probably alot of them are ricers and tnt guys.

[One Sweet Day]

everyones opinion is going to be different based on their experiences. the great thing is you can choose which track you want to go to. so go to it. why is this thread so long?

Mark

[u1arunit]

wow I thought ricers sucked,you "profesional"? tnt guys are the biggest cry babies Ive ever had the misfortune of dealing with. 300 car test & tune? never happen especially not back in the Gentille days you couldnt fit that many cars at the track. as far as stepping the hillside causing drainage problems that may or may not be true but they needed to do it to make more pit spots for how many more cars come up now.have you ever looked up there & saw how packed it is? the old keystone could never draw that many cars. I remember 1995 in particular we had a hard time getting 16 cars together for the bracket finals ( did I mention we won the bracket finals last year? not bad for such a crappy track huh) thats about all I have to say about this other than its called a race track because people go there to race, tnt's are to work out the bugs in your race car. if all you want is a time slip why dont you wait out side the gate I'm shure some one will sell you one & your buddies at Dairy Queen will never know the difference.

Yep, the only cars that go to a "Race Track" are "Race Cars". What the hell are we thinking..?