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    maybe lowering my car...have some questions

    i was thinking about lowering my fox. while ive been looking for spring and strut kits i noticed some are listed 79-93, 87-89, 94-98, 94-04 etc. what i was wondering was, i used 96+ spindles on my car and i used the 96+ struts to go with them. the 93 strut wasnt long enough to accommodate the 96+ spindle. the newer spindle was at least a good inch lower on the mounting point than the foxes spindle. so when i look for a spring/strut kit what year should i be looking for?? thanks in advance!
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    if you want to take the guess work out of it, i would say to get coil overs in the front, its kinda hard to say where it will sit with regular springs...
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    Coil overs are hard on these cars. The shock tower is not designed to support the weight of the car. Thats why the spring is under the vehicle and on the A-arm and K-member. Using coil overs will eventually cause cracking of the thin tin that is the shock tower. Once that goes, you will shoot a shock right through your hood. You could re-enforce it and bo allright. That also takes a good bit od welding and fabricating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wick View Post
    Coil overs are hard on these cars. The shock tower is not designed to support the weight of the car. Thats why the spring is under the vehicle and on the A-arm and K-member. Using coil overs will eventually cause cracking of the thin tin that is the shock tower. Once that goes, you will shoot a shock right through your hood. You could re-enforce it and bo allright. That also takes a good bit od welding and fabricating.
    ????? have you ever seen a mustang pull a wheelie?? if that doesnt brake the strut tower, i dont think anything will...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodeheaver's View Post
    ????? have you ever seen a mustang pull a wheelie?? if that doesnt brake the strut tower, i dont think anything will...

    Known fact. I have been talking to a couple good friends of mine who road race. Thats a big problem with those. They all have been going to long arm short arm fronts. It might not happen right away but eventually it will crack. I have seen it on normal driven street cars.
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    I seem to think that the raod racing is way harder on the car than the coil overs would be...just my 0.02$ i love em on stangs because you can slam down the front if you feel you want it low or raise it up if you want...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodeheaver's View Post
    I seem to think that the raod racing is way harder on the car than the coil overs would be...just my 0.02$ i love em on stangs because you can slam down the front if you feel you want it low or raise it up if you want...
    I agree. I love 'em too. Thats why I wanted them so badly. Then I was shown examples and changed my mind. Now if you did some welding on the shock tower for him, he would be golden,;)
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    Thanks for the input guys

    i wouldn't mind adjustables, coil overs are a little out of my price range though. what worries me about the 79-93 kits is if the strut it too short and i might get a hard stop at the end of the suspension. i running 8 inch wheels the whole way around my car but rubbing also concerns me a bit. as far as i know i'm the only one on the forum running 96+ spindles and 94 rear axles. right now with the stock ride height i've had no issues
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    I only have experience using a '94-95 spindle and lowering springs on Foxes, but the stock Fox strut should definitely not be too short. Some lowered '94+ guys use the Fox struts to compensate for the lowering.
    Either way, the Fox strut should work fine.
    '94-95 spindle with quality lowering springs/struts should be all you need, very simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaa55 View Post
    Thanks for the input guys

    i wouldn't mind adjustables, coil overs are a little out of my price range though. what worries me about the 79-93 kits is if the strut it too short and i might get a hard stop at the end of the suspension. i running 8 inch wheels the whole way around my car but rubbing also concerns me a bit. as far as i know i'm the only one on the forum running 96+ spindles and 94 rear axles. right now with the stock ride height i've had no issues
    I did not know '96 spindles had a different mounting. I also have SN-95 axles on mine. I went with the 31 spline variaty though. I went with the '94-95 spindles. As far as I know, there is no difference other than the '96's are 8mm wider on each side.
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    Rob: I'm not sure on the mounts but in addition to increasing the front track 8mm or so wider, the '96+ are supposed to be better for bump steer (have a different shape to the tie rod mount maybe?).
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    Quote Originally Posted by biminiLX View Post
    Rob: I'm not sure on the mounts but in addition to increasing the front track 8mm or so wider, the '96+ are supposed to be better for bump steer (have a different shape to the tie rod mount maybe?).
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    Thay do have a different mount. Its straight out rather than curved. You are correct there.
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    in all my stangs 94-04, i have used 79-93 struts when the car was lowered. so you should have no problem with fox struts with your lowering springs. and most springs are rated as 79-04.

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    im really throwing this idea around! i just dont want to lower it and rub all of the time....
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