Weighed the Capri

[Martin0660]

Took the Capri over to MAP's place and weighed it on 4 corner scales. It was just under 3200#'s with me in it. I always race with a full tank of gas, and it was about 3/4's so its close enough to call it 3200 ;) From my favorite calculator....

Initial Readings
READING OUTPUT UNITS
WEIGHT 3200 pounds
TRAP SPEED 111 mph
E/T 12.49 seconds
Dyno Readings
READING OUTPUT UNITS
Total Horsepower 349 bhp
Horsepower Used 324 bhp
Best E/T 12.19 seconds

I knew there was a lot of ET on the table with this thing as I just didnt get the passes in this year to get the suspension happy with all of my time spent in China. That will change this winter as I'm re-doing most of it so it hooks.

The combo is a T-3 at 25 psi, browntops, and a mild big valve iron head with a ranger roller. This is the same combo as my TC plus a NPR intercooler versus the top mount (and a rotated intake).

Interesting, that combo in the TC ran...

Initial Readings
READING OUTPUT UNITS
WEIGHT 3500 pounds
TRAP SPEED 103.27 mph
E/T 13.095 seconds
Dyno Readings
READING OUTPUT UNITS
Total Horsepower 307 bhp
Horsepower Used 308 bhp
Best E/T 13.10 seconds

Although that set up went 105 mph a few times, this was its best TC package. Based on that the NPR was worth just about 40 HP comparing the two. We knew it was badass, but these are about the best numbers for similar set-ups I've seen. I also always iced the IC on the TC, have never touched the NPR.

I also beleive there was more in the Capri if I could have fueled it beter. With the TC and the top mount, I was running 46#'s based fuel pressure, and it was okay. With the Capri and the NPR, I had the regualtor bottomed out at 51#'s base, and it needed more. I now have 55#' injectors, and it "feels" mad stronger. It will now turn the tires in 2nd and 3rd when it hits from a roll, and of course drives through the clutch that held fine prior.

Just a few more points for everyone to consider.

Bob Myers

[Rodeheaver's]

take out the crash bars in the doors, thats like 60lbs, get rid of the steel bumpers for later fiberglass ones, or i like to swiss cheese them, weight is your worst enemy.

[yeahloh95]

i weighted my 95 and it was 3320 my goal for the svo is 2650 and i am swiss chessing the front bumper this week

[lib88stang]

Go fast with the weight you have, its more impressive than cutting the car up.

[Martin0660]

Right now, I'm not as worried about reducing weight, as I was in knowing the weight to do the HP estimates. Before the car gets cut up, the driver needs to go on a diet. This is after all, a driver, and some level of safety needs to stay. I did pick up an aluminum rear bumper, and will be trimming a few bits to make up for anything I add. This car weighs the same now as it did when I bought it, and I added a 8.8, DS loop, intercooler, steel charge pipes, etc.

I was pretty pleased to be in the 350 hp range with the little that is done to this thing. Next year will be a lot more fun with injectors, a way to tune (TwEECer and wideband), and a "real" cam ;) I dont know of anyone thats done 400 with a stock T3 :D

Bob Myers

[yeahloh95]

hey i'll be out your way tomorrow i'm headed to lmm to pick up my bumper for the svo

[Martin0660]

hey i'll be out your way tomorrow i'm headed to lmm to pick up my bumper for the svo

I probably missed you by the time i'm replying, but I PM'ed you my cell number. Would be glad to meet up with you, I'm off today too.

Bob Myers

[yeahloh95]

i am headed out after work at 3:30 and it will take me about 45 min to get there or so i'll call you when i'm almost there

[Rodeheaver's]

Go fast with the weight you have, its more impressive than cutting the car up.

while your trying to impress people i will be running 10s in a 2300lb mostly stock fox, and i don't mean my 460 car...

[lib88stang]

while your trying to impress people i will be running 10s in a 2300lb mostly stock fox, and i don't mean my 460 car...

I didn't say I was trying to impress people, but a stock weight car that goes fast is more impressive than a cut up car that runs the same.I'm not arguing with you Timmy, but if you can do that with a mostly stock fox, you outa start racing the nmra factory stock class then. I just wouldn't cut my car up.

[Rodeheaver's]

I wasnt arguing, just talkin...

[map351]

while your trying to impress people i will be running 10s in a 2300lb mostly stock fox, and i don't mean my 460 car...

With 140ci?

[Rodeheaver's]

With 140ci?

if you get the car light enough im sure i could happen. but anyway i was just jokin around with shawn before... don't get so mad.

[map351]

Joe Morgan proved a fact in the early 80s you can go fast cheap!
His pinto @ 2700# junkyard 2.3 C-4 with a 70 shot made consistent sub 10.50 passes California street legal for $5500.00 Bux!
(Including the price of the Pinto)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EqAJ...elated&search=

Jon Huber 9.004 with 3010lbs and on gas no nos or alcohol street car...

Dave Flanders 9.12 @ 148.55 - best 1/8 - 5.77 @ 120.06

Joe Morgan 9.17 @151 on a stock 2.3 crank/block Focus wagon.
with a Esslinger 2850cc (8.30 @161)
http://www.turbojoe.com/video/8.3.wmv

Brad calhoun 6.04 @ 114.56 weight with driver:3100#

Bryssvo 10.32 @ 127 mph c4 and iron head! 3200#

J.D. Laramee 9.98 @ 137.82 with driver:2750

JDB 9.25, 145 85.5 SVO 3100 #
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afUar4DtWoc <<< 9.35 @144

And there many more.

[lib88stang]

What should my 91 notch weigh with the 2.3T in it?

[map351]

If you work on weight reduction 2700# is possible.. There's a few light ones over TurboFord. Flanders Mustang is around 3000#..

[Martin0660]

If you work on weight reduction 2700# is possible..

That notch is pretty light to start, might end pretty light is you watch the details of the car....a dressed, iron headed 2.3 isnt much lighter than an aluminum headed 5.0, so its all in the car for weight savings IMO.

Bob Myers

[yeahloh95]

really? then i might be taking the ac off to get some more weight off the front end, my goal is sub 2800 for the svo