back to back fox versus 94-95 TB dyno results inside...

[94Cobra]

My apologies KillerCanary. The difference was 9rwhp.
The graph in this thread was made using the 65mm sn95 TB.
http://www.steelcitystangs.com/forum...=lasota&page=3

The graph in the below jpg was made using the 75mm sn95 TB.

[Killercanary]

Thanks for the information! Do you care if I post those graphs in my other thread? Have you changed anything in your sig since you made those numbers?

[John4cam]

I think those are impressive #'s for being an Na 331....

[94Cobra]

I don't mind if you post those graphs. Both of them were made with my last 347 combo, which had a Trick Flow Stage 2 cam, R Series Intake, BBK eq. length shorties, and a Bassani catback. The combo in my current sig has never been on a dyno and was professionally assembled, unlike my first 347.

[Killercanary]

I think those are impressive #'s for being an Na 331....

Thanks John, I never expected to make this much, at least not until I put my new heads and exhaust on. I've definitely raised my expectations now though for when I do put them on!

[Killercanary]

I don't mind if you post those graphs. Both of them were made with my last 347 combo, which had a Trick Flow Stage 2 cam, R Series Intake, BBK eq. length shorties, and a Bassani catback. The combo in my current sig has never been on a dyno and was professionally assembled, unlike my first 347.

Thanks! I can't wait to see what your new combo puts down!

[Pure Stock]

Dude, you have 10-14 in an electric water pump. For headers, I suggest 1 3/4" primaries. Shit, with those two mods, you oughta be on the borderline of 400 to the tires with the 165's. Are you running the power steering pump during the pulls?

[gmkillr]

Current combo+

New afr 185 cnc heads
1 3/4" longtubes w/ 3" collector
Full 3" exhaust
Meziere electric water pump
Short belt
Heads milled down to get the compression up to around atleast 9.5:1
Custom Solid Roller billet cam
Solid lifters
Hog the hell out of your Holley intake

All this would net you in the ballpark of 430-445rwhp.

[Killercanary]

Dude, you have 10-14 in an electric water pump. For headers, I suggest 1 3/4" primaries. Shit, with those two mods, you oughta be on the borderline of 400 to the tires with the 165's. Are you running the power steering pump during the pulls?

I was running all accessories on those pulls including the PS, and I didn't do any dyno tricks like running lighter wheels/smaller tires, shortbelt etc. I dyno'd it exactly like I drove it in there. The car was run hot too with the coolant temps checking in at nearly 190* and the incoming air was at 90*. I wanted to run the car cooler but I was a little late in getting there and didn't have time to.

I have a set of MAC 1-3/4" ceramic coated long tubes with the 3" collectors coming soon, as well as a Dr. Gas 3" into 2.5" X pipe. I'm also putting a set of 30lb injectors in it as my 24's are at nearly 90% duty cycle now. I too was hoping that with just the exhaust and running a shortbelt to bypass the PS that it'd see damn close to, if not hit 400rwhp, all with my unported AFR165 heads and holley intake, and my little old 302 cam. I'm still in shock that this combo is performing so well!

Although an electric water pump would be nice for power, I can't justify the >$400 cost for one right now. If I come up short of 400rwhp I think the justification will be much easier though. :)

Rob- I like your line of thinking! That's be sick if I could obtain numbers like that! Of coarse, if I sell my turbo kit I'd have the funds to do a high compression NA 363!

I'm really thinking I want to stay NA now.

[Pure Stock]

I'm really thinking I want to stay NA now.

There you go, I knew you had it in ya. A couple points I'd like to make about what you are trying to accomplish:

1. It is quite evident that a great deal of fortitude and perserverence are present in the likes of this project. Kind of a blue-collar minded mentality. I mean just think about it, how easy is it to just bolt on the 185's and call it a day.

2. The fact that you are sharing the info and commenting on what works and what does not work on your particular combo so others can make gains is priceless.

3. I was always a fan of doing more with less and that mentality rings true with the likes of your current project. The smaller cylinder heads and H.R. cam are a testament of the more with less mindset.

4. There are many areas that can be addressed to reduce the parasitic losses and I would exploit those areas, without a doubt. Even after the electric water pump, P/S bypass, T.B., and header swap, there is another 8-10 RWHP waiting to be unlocked.

5. And finally, there are so many 347's floating around the corral that cannot eclipse the 400 RWHP mark it's pathetic. Do not fret though, they'll be crying their under-achieving asses off, making claim that it indeed is a 363.5" mill along with the B.S. flag flying ever so highly. And that my friend is best gawd damn compliment of all.